Three Way Blockbuster Goes Down

[Yawkey Way]

2:56pm: Heyman tweets that a three-way deal has been agreed to with Halladay going to the Phillies and Lee to the Mariners. The Phillies are now trying to sign Halladay to an extension. However, in a subsequent tweet, Heyman apologizes for a quick trigger finger and says that while the Ms are confirmed as the third team he is checking to verify they'll get Lee.

WOW. Great move by all teams in my opinion.

 

[EmpireWF]

SON OF A BITCH

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Would be fucking nice to know what we get in return here. Im hoping Franklin Guituerez is involved.

 

[Yawkey Way]

sorry Kuzzy, that's all I have.

 

[zack54attack]

Wow..

 

[Obst]

Hello Doc

 

[EmpireWF]

All I can hope is that while Doc Halladay will be epic in the NL, Cole Hamels will suck it up and the bullpen will only become worse.

PLEASE~!

 

[Sharkweather]

Fuck fuck fuck.

 

[Mogriffjr]

All I can hope is that while Doc Halladay will be epic in the NL, Cole Hamels will suck it up and the bullpen will only become worse.

PLEASE~!

I'm sorry I don't trade Lee, who was so dominant in the NL...though they seem unlikely to sign Lee...like I've heard, Lee wants C.C. money...Halladay may want less...crazy...seems like taking two steps forward and going back a bit.

though Doc in the NL is hella epic.

 

[Obst]

If you guys don't think this is a good deal for us then your just kidding yourselves. As of right now we keep all of our top prospects, trade away a guy who basically refused to take an extension with us and pick up arguably the best pitcher in baseball, who wants to take an extension and probably finish his career here. Things are looking good in Philadelphia.

 

[Leftwich]

The rich get richer...

 

[Yawkey Way]

you don't know what prospects you've traded and not traded Obst.

 

[Yawkey Way]

yes but you can also look at it as Ace for 1 year is now traded for an Ace for 4 years.

Works out for the Phils in the long run. The Mariners can pay Lee the CC money if they need too, they don't have financial problems.

 

[SethMode]

Again...ace for ace...

And one is better than the other.

 

[EmpireWF]

Point is, the Phillies are just as good, if not better right now with Halladay then they were with Lee.

 

[Berowsk]

PHILADELPHIA -- Roy Halladay could be getting close to joining the Phillies.


Sports Illustrated's Jon Heyman reported that a three-way trade has been agreed to involving Philadelphia, the Blue Jays and the Mariners, though he did not specify which players are moving besides Halladay coming to the Phillies.

A source said Monday that Halladay is in Philadelphia, likely to take a physical and talk about a contract extension. The Phillies are trying to sign Halladay to an extension before they complete the trade for the former American League Cy Young Award winner. Halladay would waive his no-trade clause to pitch for the Phillies.

It is unclear who will be part of the deal, but there have been rumors that Cliff Lee could be involved. The Phillies could ship Lee to another team in return for prospects, which they possibly could spin to the Blue Jays to complete the deal.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091214&content_id=7808166&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

So, Jays give up Halladay, Phils give up Cliff, and Mariners give up prospects. Jays get Mariners prospects, Mariners get Cliff, Phils get Halladay

 

[Mogriffjr]

I don't see the point in this. The extension talks are just that. The only way this is an upgrade is if halladay signs at a bargain price. And the hope is that halladay will be better? If anything the output will be th same. A bonafide ace either way. I'm nit tryig to downplay the deal but hell, Philly station I listen to is wondering what's the point in trading lee for hallday when the results won't significantly change

 

[EmpireWF]

Prospects from both teams are said to be going to Toronto.

 

[EmpireWF]

I don't see the point in this. The extension talks are just that. The only way this is an upgrade is if halladay signs at a bargain price. And the hope is that halladay will be better? If anything the output will be th same. A bonafide ace either way. I'm nit tryig to downplay the deal but hell, Philly station I listen to is wondering what's the point in trading lee for hallday when the results won't significantly change

From what I gather...

The Phillies wanted to sign Cliff Lee to a long term deal and he would have none of it.

Roy Halladay wanted to be with the Phils (reports said he would only agree to be dealt there) and may sign for fewer bucks, but will sign an extension.

Thus, they have their ace locked up.

 

[SethMode]

I don't see the point in this. The extension talks are just that. The only way this is an upgrade is if halladay signs at a bargain price. And the hope is that halladay will be better? If anything the output will be th same. A bonafide ace either way. I'm nit tryig to downplay the deal but hell, Philly station I listen to is wondering what's the point in trading lee for hallday when the results won't significantly change

I think the overall thought, Mo, is that the Phils believed they wouldn't be able to extend Lee for the price that they'll be able to extend Halladay. So now they might get Halladay for 5 years instead of Lee for one.

And I think Halladay is better than Lee, personally. Now I'm just curious what prospects are going. That could potentially irritate me, although I'm not a big "never give up your big prospects!!!11" guy.