Top 5/Bottom 5: Current MLB General Managers

[ThomasTomasz]

Who are your top 5 and bottom five MLB General Managers right now? I think many are going to have similar lists as far as the Bottom 5 go, but it will be interesting to see the Top 5 and how many :homer: we have.

Top 5:

1.) Andrew Friedman
2.) Frank Wren
3.) Neil Huntington
4.) John Mozeliak
5.) Jon Daniels

Bottom 5:

1.) Ruben Amaro
2.) Kevin Towers
3.) Doug Melvin
4.) Jack Zduriencik
5.) Colorado's GM by committee

 

[EmpireWF]

...I was gonna say, who the fuck named Bob Melvin their GM.

It's Doug.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

...I was gonna say, who the fuck named Bob Melvin their GM.

It's Doug.

That's how irrelevant he is to me then

 

[NAHSTE]

Daniels does not belong in the top 5, IMO. He has done nothing but disassemble the quality core Hart left him. The mismanagement of Profar, the awful Andrus contract, the thin pitching staff ... it's all on him. I'd replace Daniels with Cherington, I guess. The rest of your top and bottom 5 is solid.

 

[Glenbino]

Any bottom list that doesn't include DiPoto is incomplete.

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[Woy]

#best
1. Andrew Friedman
2. John Mozeliak
3. Frank Wren
4. Billy Beane
5. Ben Cherington
HM. Jeff Luhnow

#worst
1. Ruben Amaro
2. Doug Melvin
3. Kevin Towers
4. Jerry Dipoto
5. Jack Zduriencik

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Why does VSN constantly dismiss Dombrowski?

 

[NAHSTE]

Why does VSN constantly dismiss Dombrowski?

Because he's been doing some dumb shit this year. Fister trade was horrendous.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Daniels does not belong in the top 5, IMO. He has done nothing but disassemble the quality core Hart left him. The mismanagement of Profar, the awful Andrus contract, the thin pitching staff ... it's all on him. I'd replace Daniels with Cherington, I guess. The rest of your top and bottom 5 is solid.

If your argument against Daniels is that, then the reverse is true for Cherrington in my mind. To me, he's riding the coattails of the system that Epstein left there. Wren is on the coattails of a great system, but he doesn't have the money to work with that Cherrington has, and I think he's done enough to put his own stamp on things.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

How come Wren never takes a hit for the absolutely awful Uggla & BJ Upton deals?

 

[NAHSTE]

How come Wren never takes a hit for the absolutely awful Uggla & BJ Upton deals?

Braves avoid free agency for the most part, but when he has gone shopping on the FA market, Wren has missed frequently. That's been his one shortcoming (Kawakami, Lowe, Uggla who was a trade then extend, etc.), but because these deals aren't quite as large as most team's albatross contracts, it doesn't hamstring the team as much. Probably why it doesn't get as much attention (though we are reminded of both contracts plenty in my estimation). Uggla and BJ combined will cost 28 million total each of the next two years ... or close to what Howard or Hamilton or Pujols will be getting during that time. Then Uggla is gone and BJ will have two years left. They are bad contracts, sure, but not insanely bad to the point where I think it matters much. There's still a chance to redeem some value, they are not totally sunk costs yet IMO. I don't think it's out of the question that you can get a few 2-3 win seasons between the two of them.

Anyway, Wren's ability to find cost controlled pitching is his calling card as a GM, and it's why the team remains competitive throughout the years. You can live with two bad contracts if you're getting top of the league run prevention out of a 11 man pitching staff for $20-25 million total.

 

[Maynard]

i guess 92 wins with a bottom 5 pay role doesnt rate. thats why you guys talk shit on VSN instead of getting paid to talk shit on ESPN

 

[MVPete]

i guess 92 wins with a bottom 5 pay role doesnt rate. thats why you guys talk shit on VSN instead of getting paid to talk shit on ESPN

Pretty consistent as well...................

 

[Woy]

i guess 92 wins with a bottom 5 pay role doesnt rate. thats why you guys talk shit on VSN instead of getting paid to talk shit on ESPN

payroll*

 

[Pitty]

Pretty consistent as well...................

Consistent.....between 65-81 wins.

 

[Maynard]

under shapiro...Antonetti has been the GM for 2 years...one of which was a 92 win season. but you keep trying pete

 

[Goober]

1) Become GM
2) Have losing record as GM
3) ???
4) Be proclaimed a top 5 Gm by maynard

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

under shapiro...Antonetti has been the GM for 2 years...one of which was a 92 win season. but you keep trying pete

So one 92 win season makes him a top five GM? Pretty low standards. There are active GM's with World Series titles and multiple 90+ win seasons who nobody has even mentioned yet.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Braves avoid free agency for the most part, but when he has gone shopping on the FA market, Wren has missed frequently. That's been his one shortcoming (Kawakami, Lowe, Uggla who was a trade then extend, etc.), but because these deals aren't quite as large as most team's albatross contracts, it doesn't hamstring the team as much. Probably why it doesn't get as much attention (though we are reminded of both contracts plenty in my estimation). Uggla and BJ combined will cost 28 million total over the next two years ... or close to what Howard or Hamilton or Pujols will be getting during that time. Then Uggla is gone and BJ will have two years left. They are bad contracts, sure, but not insanely bad to the point where I think it matters much. There's still a chance to redeem some value, they are not totally sunk costs yet IMO. I don't think it's out of the question that you can few 2-3 win seasons between the two of them.

Anyway, Wren's ability to find cost controlled pitching is his calling card as a GM, and it's why the team remains competitive throughout the years. You can live with two bad contracts if you're getting top of the league run prevention out of a 11 man pitching staff for $20-25 million total.

Yeah, I don't disagree with any of that. I don't know how it plays locally or on the blogs but Wren seems to be teflon nationally when it comes to his bad moves.

But yeah, every GM does dumb shit. Billy Beane went through a period of two or three years where he tinkered too much and made some pretty bad trades, for example.

 

[Maynard]

So one 92 win season makes him a top five GM? Pretty low standards. There are active GM's with World Series titles and multiple 90+ win seasons who nobody has even mentioned yet.

and what are their payrolls? (thanks woy)