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Turner Gill Named Kansas Coach

Nice pick-up. He's got cache in the Midwest, and he's obviously a solid coach who produces disciplined teams. After dealing with the dearth of talent in Buffalo, he's probably gonna feel like he's got world class athletes when he sees his Kansas team.
 
I know a couple of guys on the Buffalo team.

Doesnt look to good for there careers now.
 
I really like Gill. I thought he was going to get the Auburn job last year as well and probably should have got it on resume alone. But this is a good hire for Kansas and he'll do really well.
 
Meh. It's a solid hire, but he was their fourth or fifth choice. Make no mistake, they had Harbaugh, Nutt, and even Tommy Tuberville was rumored for the job before Gill came around.

How does that make it any less of a good hire? ND probably wanted Meyer and Gruden ahead of Kelly but that doesn't mean it wasn't a good choice going with him in the end . It's a good hire because Gill is a good coach ... seems pretty simple to me

He's losing pretty much his entire offense, and the defense he's inheriting wasn't very good to begin with. Plus, the Big XII North isn't the patsy league everyone thinks it is.

He's coming from Buffalo lol and the B12N is pretty bad . ACC Atlantic is probably the only place that rivals it for shittyness (sp) out of the "power conferences"
 
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Meh. It's a solid hire, but he was their fourth or fifth choice. Make no mistake, they had Harbaugh, Nutt, and even Tommy Tuberville was rumored for the job before Gill came around.

Frankly, that's not a wish list Kansas should even be making. All the choices are delusional, least of which probably Tubby since he doesn't have currently a job, but honestly why would Houston Nutt leave the SEC for a basketball school in Lawrence, KS, and why would Harbaugh leave a nationally prominent university in California for a basketball school in Lawrence, KS?

Settling for the 5th choice isn't always a bad thing when choices 1-4 are way out of your league.
 
Frankly, that's not a wish list Kansas should even be making. All the choices are delusional, least of which probably Tubby since he doesn't have currently a job, but honestly why would Houston Nutt leave the SEC for a basketball school in Lawrence, KS, and why would Harbaugh leave a nationally prominent university in California for a basketball school in Lawrence, KS?

Settling for the 5th choice isn't always a bad thing when choices 1-4 are way out of your league.

Do you see Ole Miss winning the SEC any time soon? Houston Nutt would probably have a better chance of winning his conference and going to a BCS game at Kansas than at Ole Miss. That's why he would leave.

Tubby is a delusional choice even though he isn't employed? Really?

Harbaugh is probably the biggest reach, but I think he too would consider the job. He's a Midwest guy. Stanford is nationally prominent for academics, not their football team. California is nice, but he has to recruit against all of the Cali teams, and with higher academic standards. Kansas isn't that hard to recruit for. It's in the middle of the country so you can dip into all regions. Plus, they have nice facilities, a nice campus, hot girls, and oh yeah, that basketball school from Lawrence, KS won the Orange Bowl only 2 years ago...with a fat fuck as a head coach.
 
LOL at anyone calling a coach who went 3-5 in the MAC East division a "good hire".

This has disaster written all over it.
 
LOL at anyone calling a coach who went 3-5 in the MAC East division a "good hire".

This has disaster written all over it.

I remember a few years ago when everyone was pissed and claimed racism when Gill wasn't hired by Auburn after a good year at Buffalo. Fastforward to today and Kansas is being praised for hiring Gill who had an overall record of 5-7. Time will tell if this was good hiring, but it seems to me that right now Kansas is being praised for hiring a black coach and because of it people are scared to question the hiring of a coach that had a losing record.
 
I like his speech at the conference........

He's going to recruit.........LOL....mothafucka musta repeated it like 5x.
 
LOL at anyone calling a coach who went 3-5 in the MAC East division a "good hire".

This has disaster written all over it.

Do you even remember Buffalo's program before Gill made it to the MAC championship last year? They would have repeated probably had they not been hit hard with the injury bug. Remember we're talking about Buffalo here and what he did was pretty damn good IMO. I think he'll do a great job and bringing up this year without knowing just how hard the injury bug actually hit them is ridiculous. I wish him all the luck.


I remember a few years ago when everyone was pissed and claimed racism when Gill wasn't hired by Auburn after a good year at Buffalo. Fastforward to today and Kansas is being praised for hiring Gill who had an overall record of 5-7. Time will tell if this was good hiring, but it seems to me that right now Kansas is being praised for hiring a black coach and because of it people are scared to question the hiring of a coach that had a losing record.

He had a losing record at Buffalo, a year after they won the MAC Championship. Like I said above, they were killed by a bunch of injuries (I think it was between 5-8 starters that were hurt for the majority of the year). To overcome something like that and still win 5 games shows just how good of a coach he is.
 
Do you even remember Buffalo's program before Gill made it to the MAC championship last year? They would have repeated probably had they not been hit hard with the injury bug. Remember we're talking about Buffalo here and what he did was pretty damn good IMO. I think he'll do a great job and bringing up this year without knowing just how hard the injury bug actually hit them is ridiculous. I wish him all the luck.

He had a losing record at Buffalo, a year after they won the MAC Championship. Like I said above, they were killed by a bunch of injuries (I think it was between 5-8 starters that were hurt for the majority of the year). To overcome something like that and still win 5 games shows just how good of a coach he is.

Thats nice. I do remember Buffalo eking into the MAC Championship game with a 5-3 conference record, then upsetting Ball State. Good for them, but its not like Buffalo was the dominant team in the MAC last year. You make it seem as if Turner Gill performed some type of Vince Lombardi miracle. He didn't. He made a bad MAC team somewhat competitive...good for him.
 
Thats nice. I do remember Buffalo eking into the MAC Championship game with a 5-3 conference record, then upsetting Ball State. Good for them, but its not like Buffalo was the dominant team in the MAC last year. You make it seem as if Turner Gill performed some type of Vince Lombardi miracle. He didn't. He made a bad MAC team somewhat competitive...good for him.

Correction, he mad a terrible MAC team competitive.
 
Do you see Ole Miss winning the SEC any time soon? Houston Nutt would probably have a better chance of winning his conference and going to a BCS game at Kansas than at Ole Miss. That's why he would leave.

Tubby is a delusional choice even though he isn't employed? Really?

Harbaugh is probably the biggest reach, but I think he too would consider the job. He's a Midwest guy. Stanford is nationally prominent for academics, not their football team. California is nice, but he has to recruit against all of the Cali teams, and with higher academic standards. Kansas isn't that hard to recruit for. It's in the middle of the country so you can dip into all regions. Plus, they have nice facilities, a nice campus, hot girls, and oh yeah, that basketball school from Lawrence, KS won the Orange Bowl only 2 years ago...with a fat fuck as a head coach.

LOL at thinking Kansas can win the Big XII. And yeah, considering Tuberville's name pops up every year and big time programs fire coaches every year, he'd be foolish to jump on a job if he felt it was below him. Same reason Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher would turn down an interview with the Cleveland Browns. But an even bigger LOL at "it's in the middle of the contry so you can dip into all regions"...there are only two regions worth "dipping into" (California and the South) and Kansas will never be a major player in recruiting in either.
 
LOL at thinking Kansas can win the Big XII. And yeah, considering Tuberville's name pops up every year and big time programs fire coaches every year, he'd be foolish to jump on a job if he felt it was below him. Same reason Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher would turn down an interview with the Cleveland Browns. But an even bigger LOL at "it's in the middle of the contry so you can dip into all regions"...there are only two regions worth "dipping into" (California and the South) and Kansas will never be a major player in recruiting in either.

I don't think Kansas is on the level of sucking like the Cleveland Browns, but I guess everyone has an opinion. However, I think that Kansas can, and will compete for the Big 12. I'm pretty sure they did that under Mangino to be honest so how can you lol? That just makes you look dumb since it wasn't very long ago that they did just that.
 
LOL at thinking Kansas can win the Big XII. And yeah, considering Tuberville's name pops up every year and big time programs fire coaches every year, he'd be foolish to jump on a job if he felt it was below him. Same reason Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher would turn down an interview with the Cleveland Browns. But an even bigger LOL at "it's in the middle of the contry so you can dip into all regions"...there are only two regions worth "dipping into" (California and the South) and Kansas will never be a major player in recruiting in either.

LOL at Kansas not being able to win the Big 12. They won 12 games and the Orange Bowl 2 years ago. If K-State can win the Big 12, then KU probably can.

It's easier for Kansas to recruit Texas and Florida than Stanford because they're closer. That was my point.
 
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