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Vick will return Week 3 now

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"Eagles quarterback Michael Vick will be eligible to play in Week Three against the Kansas City Chiefs at home on Sept. 27, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said today in New York.

Goodell met with Eagles coach Andy Reid and Vick this morning for 50 minutes at the hotel where the eagles were staying in Newark. Goodell then talked to Vick advisor Tony Dungy for 45 minutes.

"He's demonstrating he's committed," Goodell said. "We're looking for a success story. At the end of the day it's a gut check."

Vick has done two appearances for the Humane Society. Goodell said, and expects Vick to do public service appearances in Philadelphia in the next 30 days.

According to Goodell, Vick has shown "genuine remorse," and has taken responsibility and been accountable. "That's a significant step," Goodell said."

interesting to see what the eagles will do now
 
BigHouse said:
So, what's the point of holding him out the first two weeks?

Because Goodell doesn't want to look like a bigger pussy than he already is with this...

Seriously, Week 6 would have been fine but Goodell's only doing this to appease the Player's Union and to sell more tickets.
 
Because Goodell doesn't want to look like a bigger pussy than he already is with this...

Seriously, Week 6 would have been fine but Goodell's only doing this to appease the Player's Union and to sell more tickets.

What would holding him out until Week 6 do? Would 6 weeks make him realize dog fighting really is bad? He missed two years, he served his punishment, and extra two weeks isn't going to do anything else.
 
BigHouse said:
What would holding him out until Week 6 do? Would 6 weeks make him realize dog fighting really is bad? He missed two years, he served his punishment, and extra two weeks isn't going to do anything else.

I could drop the excuse of "he's not ready... he can't possibly get back to where he was athletically before he went to prison..." but I won't.

Goodell needs to stick with original fines and punishments if he'll ever be taken seriously... now he's just flaking out.
 
I didn't think a suspension was necessary in the first place. The guy lost $130 million in endorsements, filed for bankruptcy and spend two years in jail. He served his time.. The suspension just seemed excessive to me.
 
I could drop the excuse of "he's not ready... he can't possibly get back to where he was athletically before he went to prison..." but I won't.

Goodell needs to stick with original fines and punishments if he'll ever be taken seriously... now he's just flaking out.

he is making sure they understand who is in charge of the league. The fact is ,he is a better league president than the idiot that heads the baseball league.

Look ,its cool Vick gets to come back. But he will not be anything more than the most famous well paid bench player in the history of football. In his prime he was worth a highlight film but couldnt lead a team consistantly. He was too busy thinking about post game fun. he has been in jail and gets money for nothing now. Talk about lucky-
 
he is making sure they understand who is in charge of the league. The fact is ,he is a better league president than the idiot that heads the baseball league.

Look ,its cool Vick gets to come back. But he will not be anything more than the most famous well paid bench player in the history of football. In his prime he was worth a highlight film but couldnt lead a team consistantly. He was too busy thinking about post game fun. he has been in jail and gets money for nothing now. Talk about lucky-

His general inability to make quick reads and smart decisions probably didn't help him alot either . Just sayin'

And the Eagles are planning to use him for 9-12 snaps per game . So he is a little bit more than just a backup qb bum who never gets in
 
His general inability to make quick reads and smart decisions probably didn't help him alot either . Just sayin'

And the Eagles are planning to use him for 9-12 snaps per game . So he is a little bit more than just a backup qb bum who never gets in

9 to 12 snaps still means very secondary to the whole plan. and the only reason he gets a job is because of a fad offense that will not last. if he is lucky he can be like Sorgi on a decent team and sit on his butt collecting a couple million.

and when games are tight or Eagles are behind, he will get less time / plays.

he is still one lucky dude
 
9 to 12 snaps still means very secondary to the whole plan. and the only reason he gets a job is because of a fad offense that will not last. if he is lucky he can be like Sorgi on a decent team and sit on his butt collecting a couple million.

and when games are tight or Eagles are behind, he will get less time / plays.

he is still one lucky dude

Fad offense that dominated last year, and has dominated in college for years? Buddy the spread/single wing offenses are finally being brought to the biggest stage of them all. They have been successful on every level, and I promise you it will be the same in the NFL.
 
9 to 12 snaps still means very secondary to the whole plan. and the only reason he gets a job is because of a fad offense that will not last. if he is lucky he can be like Sorgi on a decent team and sit on his butt collecting a couple million.

and when games are tight or Eagles are behind, he will get less time / plays.

he is still one lucky dude

Number 1 - He will never be Sorgi . Coming from a colts fan Sorgi is the worst qb you can ever hope to see (26th best backup actually :) ) . He isin't even our number 2 anymore since we drafted Painter . He is basicly there because him and Peyton are good freinds and he demands little in salary (also knows the playbook quite well to teach younger guys)

Number 2- This "fad offense" has been used before . It's not like they cooked it up over night . Even when Vick isin't making plays the defense will have to watch him thus helping other players get open

The Eagles have stated that they want him for goaline and short yardage plays (the thing they struggled with most last year) . That's hardly keeping him out of pressure situations now is it? goaline and short yardage?
How he gets along with McNabb is another story
 
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Number 1 - He will never be Sorgi . Coming from a colts fan Sorgi is the worst qb you can ever hope to see (26th best backup actually :) ) . He isin't even our number 2 anymore since we drafted Painter . He is basicly there because him and Peyton are good freinds and he demands little in salary (also knows the playbook quite well to teach younger guys)

Number 2- This "fad offense" has been used before . It's not like they cooked it up over night . Even when Vick isin't making plays the defense will have to watch him thus helping other players get open

The Eagles have stated that they want him for goaline and short yardage plays (the thing they struggled with most last year) . That's hardly keeping him out of pressure situations now is it? goaline and short yardage?
How he gets along with McNabb is another story


haha , dude , thats all i'm saying. Sorgi has a dream job haha , thats all.
 
Fad offense that dominated last year, and has dominated in college for years? Buddy the spread/single wing offenses are finally being brought to the biggest stage of them all. They have been successful on every level, and I promise you it will be the same in the NFL.

things that dominate in college , dont dominate in the pro's.

No, the wildcat will be short lived like the run and shoot. its just something to mess with but can not be a major part of an offense. its too easy to defend in the pro's in the long run. believe me, this year, teams will blitz the heck out of it. its basically a run play.

its not just me, this is the view of almost the entire NFL. its a fad , nothing more.
 
things that dominate in college , dont dominate in the pro's.

No, the wildcat will be short lived like the run and shoot. its just something to mess with but can not be a major part of an offense. its too easy to defend in the pro's in the long run. believe me, this year, teams will blitz the heck out of it. its basically a run play.

its not just me, this is the view of almost the entire NFL. its a fad , nothing more.

If you blitz the heck out of Vick or Pat White they'll make you look silly.
 
Because Goodell doesn't want to look like a bigger pussy than he already is with this...

Seriously, Week 6 would have been fine but Goodell's only doing this to appease the Player's Union and to sell more tickets.

You're right, Goodell should certainly never try to appease the player's union. It's not as if they get him paid or something. :cpuslap:


things that dominate in college, dont dominate in the pro's.

It wasn't just your imagination. The Chiefs and Patriots really did run the spread last year. The Dolphins had a ten-game turnaround by adding, what?, three or four plays out of the Single-Wing.

And what constitues dominate? Everyone running the same thing? Monotony's boring, dude.


No, the wildcat will be short lived like the run and shoot. its just something to mess with but can not be a major part of an offense. its too easy to defend in the pro's in the long run. believe me, this year, teams will blitz the heck out of it. its basically a run play.

its not just me, this is the view of almost the entire NFL. its a fad , nothing more.

What's wrong with innovation? Why are you and so many NFL coaches afraid of it? Everything you see in today's NFL - the 4-3, the 3-4, the 46, the I-Form, the Ace, Shotgun - all had to be created and innovated.
 
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