Wheels are falling off in Tampa rather fast...

[RyanLeaf16]

WOW...first you have the accusations of Schiano tampering with the captains vote. Which is completely not true. The players only meeting everyone is talking about had to do with the players QUESTIONING the commitment of Josh Freeman.

Now, everyone is jumping on shit that is starting to leak where Josh completely missed the team photo last week. He was late to his own football camp this summer and didn't call anyone. Thankfully, Vincent Jackson stepped in and took over for the day and worked with the kids. Now, Freeman is supposed to meet with the media today and he is 1.5 hours late. No word at all. Guys question his commitment and his comments of "If the Bucs don't pay me, then someone else will," didn't set well with others around OBP as well.

Add in that the players are pretty much done with Schiano and the Glazers have a serious fuckin' problem on their hands. Don't be shocked if they say AMF to Schiano if they Bucs start 0-3 or 0-4.

Glazers fired Gruden b/c they weren't happy with the 9-7 records Gruden put up with a shoe-string budget. Now, they are about to can another coach and have no real direction. Take a guess why Chip Kelly backed out on the Glazers after he initially said "yes."

The Glazers have trashed this organization and are ruining it. I wish for BigBucs and S@ppisGod's sake that they finally cave and sell to Mr. DeBartolo who has wanted to buy the team for about a decade now.

 

[krulmichael]

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I must have missed the part where the players were checking out on Schiano. With a coach with that personality, it's a foregone conclusion, but I didn't think it would be this early.

 

[RyanLeaf16]

Some ugly rumors being thrown around the airwaves today. A lot of the rumors of drug use from years ago are coming back up. Even allegations of homosexual relationships around the Bay Area. Crazy shit, kind of like a soap opera right now.

 

[Villain]

First saw this thread in the "New Posts" list and I didn't pay attention to the forum. Thought it was going to be about the Rays.

:rudi:

 

[Houston]

Oh, now the wheels are falling off?

:jonesy:

 

[Mogriffjr]

Some ugly rumors being thrown around the airwaves today. A lot of the rumors of drug use from years ago are coming back up. Even allegations of homosexual relationships around the Bay Area. Crazy shit, kind of like a soap opera right now.

with who?

 

[Apocalypse]

I was going to write a big long post, but since this is about the Bucs....organization's terrible, someone has to take control.

 

[NAHSTE]

Some ugly rumors being thrown around the airwaves today. A lot of the rumors of drug use from years ago are coming back up. Even allegations of homosexual relationships around the Bay Area. Crazy shit, kind of like a soap opera right now.

:wtf2:

 

[RyanLeaf16]

with who?

IDK members of the heavily populated gay community in the chic south Tampa area. Just rumors right now, but today has been like an onslaught of crazy rumors that really were just whispers for the last few years. Now it is all about Josh having bigger issues off the field and that's why teammates are questioning his commitment, etc.

 

[MVPete]

with who?

:bigbucs:

 

[Tailback U]

No offense, Leaf, but you have acted like you've had "insider" info about the Bucs organization since MaddenMania and I don't think you've ever actually called anything.

You always throw out a bunch of shit and maybe some of it sticks once in a while but your sources are pretty weak, IMO.

Now as far as the Bucs go and the "wheels falling off.." The organization has been shitty for years. Josh Freeman sucks. The team, overall, isn't all that bad. But you need a decent QB in this league to win close football games and Josh Freeman isn't the answer.

If they win games, it doesn't matter what the players think of Schiano. Look at Belichick and Tom Coughlin and a bunch of other hard nosed asshole coaches. If you win it doesn't matter. The Bucs have needed a QB for years. Until then, the wheels will never be even be on tight enough to fall off.

 

[Derrville]

with who?

Ronde

 

[dave]

Some ugly rumors being thrown around the airwaves today. A lot of the rumors of drug use from years ago are coming back up. Even allegations of homosexual relationships around the Bay Area. Crazy shit, kind of like a soap opera right now.

Josh Freeman coming out could be the greatest move of his career. He goes from being a below average QB to everyone's (ok, not everyone) hero and someone to cheer for in a day. He goes from being an obscure, average NFL QB to the first NFL starting QB who comes out. As for the drug use from years ago, who cares. If he's still using, yes, that's a concern. If he's not, but gay and hiding ... come out.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

As a Panthers fan that is one of the greatest GIFs I have ever seen lmao

 

[dave]

Other than being a Conservative knob, why does my comment deserve a groan W2BTD? Be honest ... coming out (other than actually becoming an elite QB) would be the greatest move for Josh Freeman. Hell ... people are lobbying to get Jason Collins a job next year, despite the fact that he averages 1 point a game and wouldn't get a minimum salary most teams wouldn't pay a straight dude. Honestly ... get over your Conservative ways ... and ask yourself - how much is the first OUT NFL starting quarterback worth today.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

my groans have nothing to do with politics, you weirdo

re-read those two posts and you'd probably groan yourself

 

[BigBucs]

:domestic: Cant take too many more shitty seasons, especially with the talent we have on both sides of the ball.

 

[Maynard]

this is kind of weak imo. being late to a kids camp and the media is not the end of the world. the bucs lost a tough game last week simple as that.

and no offense leaf, but Tailback U is right. When Gruden got canned you went on a week long rant about this that and the other thing and never once mentioned it had anything to do with the Glazers not liking his 9-7 record. I remember that vividly because i totally disagreed with your opinion on gruden

 

[RyanLeaf16]

No offense, Leaf, but you have acted like you've had "insider" info about the Bucs organization since MaddenMania and I don't think you've ever actually called anything.

You always throw out a bunch of shit and maybe some of it sticks once in a while but your sources are pretty weak, IMO.

Now as far as the Bucs go and the "wheels falling off.." The organization has been shitty for years. Josh Freeman sucks. The team, overall, isn't all that bad. But you need a decent QB in this league to win close football games and Josh Freeman isn't the answer.

If they win games, it doesn't matter what the players think of Schiano. Look at Belichick and Tom Coughlin and a bunch of other hard nosed asshole coaches. If you win it doesn't matter. The Bucs have needed a QB for years. Until then, the wheels will never be even be on tight enough to fall off.

During the Gruden days I did have some contacts. Now, I don't, I'm literally just reporting all the crazy shit that people in the media down here are talking about. It is some crazy shit. I even think its outlandish, but, the fact that people are posting text messages and saying this shit on the air is pretty slanderous. Thus, it makes many think that there is something serious, beyond football, going on.

Additionally, I'm not saying any of this is true, what I am saying is that I have never of such an attack against a player that included these types of allegations and rumors. It really is the craziest shit I've heard. People go from not liking Josh one day to now a number of reported leaks about teammates questioning his commitment, drug use, questions about his off-field behavior/sexuality effecting his on-field play, rift with coaches, Schiano claiming that Josh is late "for a lot of things," Josh disputing that by saying he's not, etc. Just a lot of shit and stuff I have never seen before.