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Which rotation is better?

As much as I don't like the Braves, I don't see how their rotation couldn't be considered the greatest ever, especially considering Avery blew his arm out later.
 
dave said:
Just 1993 Seth.
One year.
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I don't really even know why I talked about Avery blowing his arm out, since I was going with the 93 Braves winning it. Either way, my original thought is that it is definitely the 93 Braves.
 
I'd like to see how the 2011 Phillies rotation shakes out, but right now I would give the nod to the '93 Braves.
 
Phils rotation looks awesome but it hasn't done anything yet...so for now I give the edge to the 93 Braves.
 
Phillies rotation is sick but I'll give the edge to the Braves given that Smoltz, Glavine and Maddux were just entering their prime. Oswalt is a tick past his and Lee might be joining him soon, at 32.

But every time I want to get mad about this I just remember those 1990s staffs we had and how much I took them for granted. Even in sports, what comes around goes around I guess.
 
Smoltz said on MLBN Hot Stove that the Phillies on paper have the better rotation but they must play out the games. Oswalt had good numbers with the Phillies (7-1), he added some years to his arm just by getting with a team that can score.
 
Until the Phillies staff actually does something and sustains it for a few years, 1993 Braves are still king

edit: Just saw Ryne's post, Smoltzie agrees
 
I hate the way ESPN covers shit like this. Hyperboles to the max.

Karl Ravech actually said last night, "I can't think of a scenario where the Phillies are ever going to lose 3-4 games in a row"

Really guys... just stop.

They are going to be good but stop with this crap.
 
FedEx227 said:
I hate the way ESPN covers shit like this. Hyperboles to the max.

Karl Ravech actually said last night, "I can't think of a scenario where the Phillies are ever going to lose 3-4 games in a row"

Really guys... just stop.

They are going to be good but stop with this crap.
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Reminds me of the retarded hyperbole guys were spewing after LeBron joined the Heat. "8 straight championships in in play." "I don't think they'll lose more than 10 games all year."
 
Like Cliff Lee said last night, this rotation hasn't pitched together yet so they don't deserve the "best rotation ever" talk. If all four of these guys pitch their best next season, then we can start talking about where they rank, but now it's just all speculation.
 
The 2011 Phillies' rotation of Cliff Lee, Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels might have the stuff to rank with the best of all time. What will it take? Here are the standard bearers:

5. 1993 Braves » Atlanta's best four-man group? Hard to chose between the 1993 foursome of Tom Glavine (22-6), Cy Young winner Greg Maddux (20-10), Steve Avery (18-6) and John Smoltz (15-11) or the 1997 version -- Denny Neagle (20-5), Maddux (19-4), Smoltz (15-12) and Glavine (14-7).

4. 1920 White Sox » Here's how much baseball has changed. Red Faber (23-13), Lefty Williams (22-14), Eddie Cicotte (21-10) and Dickey Kerr (21-9) all won 20 games even though each allowed more hits than innings pitched.

3. 1998 Braves » There's not much doubt about the best five-man rotation in recent times. How about '98 Cy Young winner Glavine (20-6), Maddux (18-9), Kevin Millwood (17-8), Smoltz (17-3) and Neagle (16-11)?

2. 1954 Indians » His career was winding down at age 35, but how about Bob Feller (13-3) as a fifth starter to complement Bob Lemon (23-7), Early Wynn (23-11), Mike Garcia (19-8) and Art Houtteman (15-7)? Also stellar was the Indians' '51 foursome of Feller, Garcia, Wynn and Lemon, which won a combined 79 games.

1. 1971 Orioles » The only team since 1920 with four 20-game winners. Mike Cuellar (20-9), Jim Palmer (20-9), and Pat Dobson (20-8) were constants in the rotation, each starting at least 37 games. The key man was Dave McNally (21-5, 2.89), who won 20 despite starting just 30.


Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs...p-5-pitching-staffs-mlb-history#ixzz18FzmU9cR
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