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Who has better skills and overall game than Vitor?

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Liquidrob

Izzy is a bum
Look at his striking, his spee, power, wrestling, BJJ, GnP, etc...he has one of the most complete games in MMA, only issue he ever has was mental, plus he has been in the game since 18

Now he is fighting at weights that he is better suited for, he used to be a blown up 220, now he is in that 185/195 range and putting guys on queer street again, last 2 fights taking out Matt Linland and Rich Franklin

Vitor is on fire and coming for And1 Silva

Also doesnt hurt training with Xtreme Couture and stand up guru Tompkins

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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvfTjMJqEE"]YouTube - Vitor "The Phenom" Belfort[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiETcFxbLrg"]YouTube - MMA - Vitor Belfort vs Matt Lindland (2009) www.mma mi-web es[/ame]
 
As good as he is, he'd still lose to And1 right now. Silva is on a whole different level. Silva didn't just beat Franklin like Belfort did, Silva demolished his face and has done the same to better fighters since then.

Vitor is very good, but to say no one is better at his weight when he is far behind the consensus #1 is crazy.
 
JeremyHight said:
As good as he is, he'd still lose to And1 right now. Silva is on a whole different level. Silva didn't just beat Franklin like Belfort did, Silva demolished his face and has done the same to better fighters since then.

Vitor is very good, but to say no one is better at his weight when he is far behind the consensus #1 is crazy.
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just skill wise, all the tools, vitor still can be a head case and is not a silva/gsp/fedor, etc...but just looking at attributes and skills Vitor is top of the food chain IMO, this is not who is the best fighter, that is different

striking, wrestling, bjj, speed, explosiveness, etc...its all there

you get guys that can strike and wrestle, guys who have great BJJ and can strike, guys who have wrestling and BJJ, but Vitor is pretty much close to the top guys in all phases, I would say on par with GSP

GSP would have better wrestling and his BJJ is great, but Vitors BJJ is no joke and has good wrestling top control also, but his striking is superior to GSP

If we were looking at a perfect fighter scenrio, I think you start with GSP and Vitor, he just is a head case, only issue left would be his cardio, but his past issues were at much heavier weights and he is were he needs to be now
 
Its amazing that all he had to do was really clip Rich to put him down like that.. shows you how dangerous Vitor's hands really are.
 
I thought the knock against Belfort was take him deep into a fight and you can win there.

His striking is impressive and we haven't needed to see any other skills recently from him.
 
EmpireWF said:
I thought the knock against Belfort was take him deep into a fight and you can win there.

His striking is impressive and we haven't needed to see any other skills recently from him.
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Yeah, with Vitor its either a mental break or cardio later in the fight, they actually go hand and hand some times, but skill wise, physical attributes, etc… just a beast, just like Overeem, they are awesome the first round, sometimes less, lol, but going into the fight they should be favored just on skills, attributes, training
 
Bmore said:
I would comment, but I can't make out what you are trying to say here.
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lol, I was taking a shot at KOF mostly and some others, guys have this thing were if someone losses a couple fights in the UFC or fight in another org that they are not 'UFC caliber' and dont repsect the other orgs/cards and like to call them 'rejects' or 'has beens'

Vitor is a stud, he has always been a top fighter, doesnt matter he lost some fights, now he is back and tearing shit up

Daley lost in EliteXC to Jake Shields and now just beat a guy who was fighting a number 1 contender fight, so it shows the talent of a Shields and guys in other orgs, just because you dont fight in the UFC doesnt mean you are a 2nd rate fighter
 
Liquidrob said:
lol, I was taking a shot at KOF mostly and some others, guys have this thing were if someone losses a couple fights in the UFC or fight in another org that they are not 'UFC caliber' and dont repsect the other orgs/cards and like to call them 'rejects' or 'has beens'

Vitor is a stud, he has always been a top fighter, doesnt matter he lost some fights, now he is back and tearing shit up

Daley lost in EliteXC to Jake Shields and now just beat a guy who was fighting a number 1 contender fight, so it shows the talent of a Shields and guys in other orgs, just because you dont fight in the UFC doesnt mean you are a 2nd rate fighter
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kinda like paul daley eh?
 
Speaking of has beens....I take it you didnt watch the CroCop fight ?
Vitors BJJ ??? lol

The guy has what 1 submission in a 13 yr career ? Got guillotined by Overeem ?

LiquidRob said:
I have been setting this up for weeks
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To quote an awesome movie...
You've been chasing me your whole life only to fail now? I think that's about the worst thing I've ever heard.
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You really need to pick your spots better.
 
KINGOFOOTBALL said:
Speaking of has beens....I take it you didnt watch the CroCop fight ?
Vitors BJJ ??? lol

The guy has what 1 submission in a 13 yr career ? Got guillotined by Overeem ?


To quote an awesome movie...



You really need to pick your spots better.
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Vitor has very good BJJ, did quite well in ADCC and Overeem has one of the best guillotines in MMA, BJJ is just about subs, positioning is a big factor, Arona was one of the best grapplers in the world, never lost a match in ADCC and only has 3 subs in MMA

I'm sure Vitor and Daley are top UFC/MMA fighters now in your eyes, they just need that UFC banner on the mat to make them good
 
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