Who should win Offensive ROTY?

[Hasselbeck]

Self explanatory.

 

[FirstTimer]

Luck...but you can't go wrong with any of them

 

[MVPete]

Fuck this shit I'm not even voting, you have a case for all 3.

 

[Chrispy]

All 3 are deserving but going with Luck

 

[Glenbino]

Sucks to be Doug Martin this year

 

[MrBill]

RG III is doing more with less than the other two so he gets my vote.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

lol; Luck has mega INTs........i dont care if broke Cam's throwing rookie record; his pass/INT stat is horrible.

Wilson didnt start doing what he is doing until the Redskins started changing the offensive scheme with a mobile QBs for the NFL.

RGIII is by far the better "All Around Player", pocket passer, mobile QB, excellent passing stats. only 5 INTs with 2 should have never been.

yes - i am a Redskin fan but NOBODY could have predicted anything close to what RGIII has done this year.

 

[BazookaJoe5]

If I had to pick one I would say Wilson. It wouldn't surprise me if it ends up a three way tie, though. Unprecedented but I don't see how you can pick just one of the three.

 

[f16harm]

Aside from yardage, and the feel good story of a coach with cancer, I'd really like to know why the fuck people are all over Luck for this (mostly talking media here) ? RG3 numbers are ridiculous for a rookie. Luck's numbers, looking at ratios of drop backs and what he has to work with, aren't much better than Tannehill. RG3 should win hands down with Wilson second. As an entire class though, the NFL really needed this, every rookie QB selected has shown they can play, even Foles and Weeden.

 

[kmanharris]

lol; Luck has mega INTs........i dont care if broke Cam's throwing rookie record; his pass/INT stat is horrible.

Wilson didnt start doing what he is doing until the Redskins started changing the offensive scheme with a mobile QBs for the NFL.

RGIII is by far the better "All Around Player", pocket passer, mobile QB, excellent passing stats. only 5 INTs with 2 should have never been.

yes - i am a Redskin fan but NOBODY could have predicted anything close to what RGIII has done this year.

So you're crediting Wilson's success to the Redskins? Now there's a new kind of homerism.

 

[SethMode]

So you're crediting Wilson's success to the Redskins? Now there's a new kind of homerism.

He gets points for creativity.

I went with RG3, but I think Wilson makes a very good case as well. Luck for me has been great but yardage doesn't mean what it used to IMO.

 

[Villain]

Andrew Luck because he is white.

 

[G-men]

RG III is doing more with less than the other two so he gets my vote.

What?

The Colts were 2-14 last year and the worst team in the league. Besides Reggie Wayne, Luck is playing with a bunch of rookies and second year players at the rest of the skill positions, and he has gotten them to 10-5, with several of those wins coming where he carried the team on his back. In regards to doing the most with the least, Luck is leaps and bounds ahead of RGIII and Wilson.

 

[killgod]

RG3 should win IMO.

-I don't put much stock into passing yardage, because it's become a rather statistic to accumulate in today's NFL.
-Luck threw 224 more passes, but only completed 75 more than Griffin.
-Touchdowns are equal, interceptions are not. 5 interceptions for a rookie is rather fucking phenomenal.
-I don't give a shit about wins, wins are a team stat. But if we're going to talk about wins here, lets consider the Colts, while they came off a 2 win season, have been a regular powerhouse for a decade. The Redskins have sucked for the past 2 decades. Griffin made a loser shitdick franchise a winner and I give him the edge on this rather stupid point.
-Reggie Wayne has more talent than all offensive players combined for Washington.

 

[NAHSTE]

Gonna go with Griffin III. I'm a sucker for TD/INT ratio, I think it's by far the most important figure for evaluating a QB, and 4:1 is pretty god damn fantastic, rookie or otherwise.

 

[Influence]

From 2-14 to...

Luck

 

[Argath]

For the sake of argument I'll add Russell Wilson stats as well.

RG3 QBR = 71
Luck QBR = 65
Wilson QBR = 70

RG3 Passer Rating = 104
Luck Passer Rating = 75
Wilson Passer Rating = 98

RG3 Comp % = 66
Luck Comp % = 54
Wilson Comp % = 63

RG3 Total Yards (Passing) = 3,852 (3,100)
Luck Total Yards (Passing) = 4,437 (4,183)
Wilson Total Yard (Passing) = 3,299 (2,868)

RG TD (Passing) = 26 (20)
Luck TD (Passing) = 26 (21)
Wilson TD (Passing) = 28 (25)

RG3 INT = 5
Luck INT = 18
Wilson INT = 10

RG3 Wins = 8 (I'm not going to credit the Browns win)
Luck Wins = 10
Wilson Wins = 10


And for those who say RG3 only has dink and dump plays making his completion percentage and QBR better than Luck..

RG3 Avg Yards per Completion = 8.27
Luck Avg Yards per Completion = 6.98
Wilson Avg Yards per Completion = 7.67



The only category which Luck is even leap and bounds better than RG3 is passing yards. Perhaps this is because Andrew Luck has attempted 224 (yes 224) more passes than RG3. Not to mention Luck has more than triple the amount of INT than RG3. RG3 holds several rookie records as well, in fact I'm pretty sure he holds more rookie records than Luck but I could be wrong on that.

This shouldn't even be close between Andrew Luck and RG3 and frankly it wouldn't be if Andrew Luck wasn't touted as the next Peyton Manning by every media outlet out there. Luck isn't #1 in any category outside of passing. If RG3 isn't better than him in the category, Wilson is.

Don't get me wrong all 3 have had great seasons but RG3 has had the best season of the 3. This isn't MVP and shouldn't have to do with impact on team from last year. This is offensive rookie of the year, in other words which rookie has had the best season.

 

[SuperKevin]

Aside from yardage, and the feel good story of a coach with cancer, I'd really like to know why the fuck people are all over Luck for this (mostly talking media here) ? RG3 numbers are ridiculous for a rookie. Luck's numbers, looking at ratios of drop backs and what he has to work with, aren't much better than Tannehill. RG3 should win hands down with Wilson second. As an entire class though, the NFL really needed this, every rookie QB selected has shown they can play, even Foles and Weeden.

Not every rookie QB has shown they can play

 

[SuperKevin]

I love the argument that Luck should win because he took a 2-14 team to the playoffs. I forgot how the powerhouse Washington Redskins just barely missed the playoffs with their 5-11 record last year.

 

[ThunderHorse]

Luck doesn't have much to work with, idk where people get off on saying Luck has more talent around him than RGIII.

Luck has no real runningback help, He's got an absolutely terrible offensive line. The best WR in Indianapolis last year was Pierre Garcon (where's he playing now?). The Nature of Indianapolis' offense forces Luck to make more deep throws than he really should be, Analyst point out all the time how it seems like Indianapolis doesn't run underneath routes. The offensive coordinator has been pushing Luck to make big passing plays down the field (if IIRC He's leading the league in that stat, or at one point was, in 20+ yard passing plays) and he has delivered.

As for the Indianapolis Power House comment, Indianapolis' turnover this offseason was ridiculous, there's very very few guys who were part of the old regime that are still here. This is essentially a new team, With a new head coach, With a new Front Office Management, With new players taking over as key contributers. Dwight Freeney has slipped into relative obscurity while Robert Mathis has essentially turned into Indianapolis' #1 pass rusher. Defensive backs like Vontae Davis have given Indianapolis some corner play that we as fans haven't witnessed in a long, long time. Reggie Wayne has become the offensive leader this year (last year it was Pierre Garcon), while rookies like Dwayne Allen and T.Y. Hilton have shown much promise for the future.

I don't have to say who I believe is the best rookie this year because my fandom speaks for itself. I understand that I can't make an uninvested decision. But what I do know is this team was 2-14 last year, and their record would probably be about the damn same if Luck hadn't won us some games. He's shown incredible clutchness against teams this year and has legitimately put the team on his back on some game winning drives and won Indianapolis games. He's more athletic than anyone will give him credit for, and he's big and strong enough that he appears to be the type of guy with that ironman will. Andy luck hasn't sat out any games this year, the same can't be said about RGIII. Furthermore, RGIII's rookie backup comes in and puts up 3+ Bills and 2 Touchdowns against Cleveland and Washington doesn't seem to lose much of a step.

Chandler Harnish probably isn't going to be able to play at Andy Luck's level.

Homerism aside Indianapolis doesn't lean on Reggie Wayne, Dwayne Allen, T.Y. Hilton, Vick Ballard, or Donnie Avery. They lean on Andrew Luck, and live and die by Andrew Luck. Indianapolis doesn't give Luck a vanilla offense where he has a strong run game to lean on and can use things like read option to open up running and passing lanes, they've asked luck to make big plays all year, they've put a veteran load of responsiblity on him, and he has delivered.