Who will win first?

[DDRGuido]

Buffalo plays @ home week 10 against DET. But DET is on the up n up. Then week 14 @ home against CLE. So there is a slight chance Bills make it a 2-14 season or drop the goose egg and go 0-16 prob be done in Buffalo.

Carolina has no Offense at all. They do play at home against SF this week but SF is better than their 1-5 record. Week 12 is a scrub bowl CAR @ CLE. I like Cleveland tho. So same situation with Carolina too. Could go 2-14 but prob won't. 1-15 or 0-16 ftw.

I like the Bills to go 1-15 this season, yeah baby! I predicted a 4-12 season but...
:iaintevenmad:

Since I'm a degenerate, I'll like to place a friendly bet with anyone on paypal. Of course I get BUF u get CAR. I'll do any amount. Would prefer $100. and I'm good for the $$$, just had a $30k+ month on full tilt.

Edit: forgot to add a poll goddamnit

 

[KillaK]

As a Carolina fan this season has been awful. I can't see Fox staying around after this season. I could see Carolina getting that W against the 49ers. I'm still going to predict Carolina to win every week even though deep deep down I know that we would get lucky to score 10 points in a game.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

lol... Carolina has been in some games and then their defense is legit as hell. I'd take my Panthers any day of the week. There is a HUGE difference between the obnoxiously bad teams like Buffalo and the just bad/down on luck Panthers/49ers/Cowboys. I suggest you watch a Carolina game rather then watch sportscenter before you throw away your money.

Don't get me wrong, our offense is bad, but not terrible, our playcalling is terrible, Dwill and Jstew are still being effective but not getting nearly as many carries as they should. This bye week I think shit gets put together and the run game becomes a bigger focus.

Buff vs Cleveland and Carolina vs St Louis... Carolina will win against St Louis but can anybody be sure that Buffalo beats Cleveland?

And Im interested in taking your bet, absolutely

 

[DDRGuido]

lol... Carolina has been in some games and then their defense is legit as hell. I'd take my Panthers any day of the week. There is a HUGE difference between the obnoxiously bad teams like Buffalo and the just bad/down on luck Panthers/49ers/Cowboys. I suggest you watch a Carolina game rather then watch sportscenter before you throw away your money.

Don't get me wrong, our offense is bad, but not terrible, our playcalling is terrible, Dwill and Jstew are still being effective but not getting nearly as many carries as they should. This bye week I think shit gets put together and the run game becomes a bigger focus.

Buff vs Cleveland and Carolina vs St Louis... Carolina will win against St Louis but can anybody be sure that Buffalo beats Cleveland?

And Im interested in taking your bet, absolutely

cool, consider it booked then?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

lol... Carolina has been in some games and then their defense is legit as hell. I'd take my Panthers any day of the week. There is a HUGE difference between the obnoxiously bad teams like Buffalo and the just bad/down on luck Panthers/49ers/Cowboys. I suggest you watch a Carolina game rather then watch sportscenter before you throw away your money.

Don't get me wrong, our offense is bad, but not terrible, our playcalling is terrible, Dwill and Jstew are still being effective but not getting nearly as many carries as they should. This bye week I think shit gets put together and the run game becomes a bigger focus.

Buff vs Cleveland and Carolina vs St Louis... Carolina will win against St Louis but can anybody be sure that Buffalo beats Cleveland?

And Im interested in taking your bet, absolutely

How can ou say Carolina's offense isnt terrible?

Carolina has scored 52 points this season. FIFTY TWO.

I watch all of the games, and Carolina isnt anywhere near as good as Dallas or SF. Both of those teams have far more talent, and Carolina is firmly entrenched in the Buffalo/Cleveland/Detroit class of the NFL.

In my opinion, Carolina has the worst QB's in the NFL, slightly edged out by the Delhomme/Wallace/McCoy three headed "monster" in Cleveland. Matt Moore will never be a player, and Jimmy Clausen is flat out awful and is easily the worst starter in the league right now.

Carolina has terrible WR's. Smith can still play, but has no QB to get him the ball and is aging. The rest are roster fringe who would have trouble sticking most other rosters let alone getting playing time.

Add that up, and you have a team with bad QB play and bad WR's in a passing league. Good luck. The running game has no chance, because nobody is even remotely afraid of the passing "attack".

Carolina has scored 52 ponuts this season. FIFTY TWO.

The defense is in the middle of the pack in terms of points against, which isnt good enough when you have by far the worst offense since the 2007 49ers.

And why you seem to think Carolina would waltz into St Louis and beat a 3-3 Rams team that just took care of the Chargers in the same building is puzzling. Can Carolina win that game? I guess, why not? But they will definately be the underdogs, that much is an absolute stone cold lock. The Rams are better on both sides of the ball, and are good at home (3-1).

You are in homer denial. Carolina is a really bad team.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

How can ou say Carolina's offense isnt terrible?

Carolina has scored 52 points this season. FIFTY TWO.

I watch all of the games, and Carolina isnt anywhere near as good as Dallas or SF. Both of those teams have far more talent, and Carolina is firmly entrenched in the Buffalo/Cleveland/Detroit class of the NFL.

In my opinion, Carolina has the worst QB's in the NFL, slightly edged out by the Delhomme/Wallace/McCoy three headed "monster" in Cleveland. Matt Moore will never be a player, and Jimmy Clausen is flat out awful and is easily the worst starter in the league right now.

Carolina has terrible WR's. Smith can still play, but has no QB to get him the ball and is aging. The rest are roster fringe who would have trouble sticking most other rosters let alone getting playing time.

Add that up, and you have a team with bad QB play and bad WR's in a passing league. Good luck. The running game has no chance, because nobody is even remotely afraid of the passing "attack".

Carolina has scored 52 ponuts this season. FIFTY TWO.

The defense is in the middle of the pack in terms of points against, which isnt good enough when you have by far the worst offense since the 2007 49ers.

And why you seem to think Carolina would waltz into St Louis and beat a 3-3 Rams team that just took care of the Chargers in the same building is puzzling. Can Carolina win that game? I guess, why not? But they will definately be the underdogs, that much is an absolute stone cold lock. The Rams are better on both sides of the ball, and are good at home (3-1).

You are in homer denial. Carolina is a really bad team.

Apparently you completely disregarded what I said... if the playcalling changes to protect the QBs by running the ball more then we will win more games. The past 5 years its been easy to figure out the Panthers will run the ball almost every play. Now we draft a QB and instantly think we can pass the majority of the time. D Will is still averaging almost 5 yds a carry. this stat sums up why the Panthers lose: we have 65 first downs this season.... 18 by rushing. when the Panthers get to 3rd and short they try calling pass plays which is puzzling. As far as the defense giving up points, its from bad field position and turnovers.

David Gettis is the number 2 WR, and Devin Thomas is an upgrade over LaFell/Jarrett/Edwards. We also have the 5th ranked pass defense, and the teams we have played are all winning, outside of Cincy who is 2-3. Our other 4 opponents are a combined 15-8 (3 Division leaders right now we lost to). The Rams have only played 2 .500+ teams, the Cardinals who don't have a QB and the Seahawks who have been jekyll and hyde.

I said I know that my team is bad, but they are better then the Bills easily, and they will prob win against St. Louis, there is no homer there, you coming into the thread throwing a bitchfit because I think my team can beat yours is what's called being a homer.

And how you don't consider St Louis in the Buffalo/Cleveland/Detroit class of the NFL after getting completely destroyed by Detroit is just puzzling.

 

[Maize]

I picked Carolina, but they are so bad that I cannot actual argue why I picked them. Chan Gailey and John Fox should both be finished after this season.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Apparently you completely disregarded what I said... if the playcalling changes to protect the QBs by running the ball more then we will win more games. The past 5 years its been easy to figure out the Panthers will run the ball almost every play. Now we draft a QB and instantly think we can pass the majority of the time. D Will is still averaging almost 5 yds a carry. this stat sums up why the Panthers lose: we have 65 first downs this season.... 18 by rushing. when the Panthers get to 3rd and short they try calling pass plays which is puzzling. As far as the defense giving up points, its from bad field position and turnovers.

David Gettis is the number 2 WR, and Devin Thomas is an upgrade over LaFell/Jarrett/Edwards. We also have the 5th ranked pass defense, and the teams we have played are all winning, outside of Cincy who is 2-3. Our other 4 opponents are a combined 15-8 (3 Division leaders right now we lost to). The Rams have only played 2 .500+ teams, the Cardinals who don't have a QB and the Seahawks who have been jekyll and hyde.

I said I know that my team is bad, but they are better then the Bills easily, and they will prob win against St. Louis, there is no homer there, you coming into the thread throwing a bitchfit because I think my team can beat yours is what's called being a homer.

Nobody is throwing a "bitch fit".

But the idea that you lump Carolina with Dallas & SF (especially Dallas) is absurd. You can make a solid argument they are they worst team in the league.

LIke I said before, it's entirely possible Carolina wins @ St. Louis, but they will definately 100% be the underdogs when the line comes out. I just fail to understand why you are so confident a winless Panther team will go on the road and do what Washington, Seattle, and San Diego couldnt, yet at the same time you think Buffalo can't beat Cleveland.

And how you don't consider St Louis in the Buffalo/Cleveland/Detroit class of the NFL after getting completely destroyed by Detroit is just puzzling.

I never said that, but...they do have more wins than Buffalo/Cleveland/Detroit/Carolina. Combined.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

Panthers have played some solid teams and redzone turnovers have killed them. Im confident because even when Jeff Otah comes back the o-line drastically improves... if we run the dam ball 30 times a game then we have a shot to win... our defense is not that of the Jets last year, but the offense is somewhat similar... if we protect the inexperienced QB with a run game then we have a chance to win some games.

 

[Hasselbeck]

This thread just rehashes how wrong I was in picking the Panthers to be a sleeper. They fucking suck.

I'm just sad to see Clausen was yanked again for Matt Moore. Was looking forward to all the lulz he was going to bring when the Panthers travel to Seattle in a few weeks.

Oh well. Can't wait to see what fuck ups John Fox does the rest of the year.

Buffalo at least plays with some heart and Fitzpatrick is fiesty enough to pull a win out of his ass. The Panthers are TERRIBLE.

 

[for surtain 22]

I mean, I've met a ton of people who pump up their team when they're average, or good; but I've never met anyone who tries to pump up their team when it's so obvious that they suck. Very impressive OOBL.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

I mean, I've met a ton of people who pump up their team when they're average, or good; but I've never met anyone who tries to pump up their team when it's so obvious that they suck. Very impressive OOBL.

guess you didnt read, Im not saying they are even good really, but if we run the ball we have a good chance... and Im saying they are better than the Bills... if thats pumping a team up then Id hate to see how bad the homerism is with other teams fans. we lost to 3 division leaders, and the Bucs :facepalm: and Bengals. I did expect us to win a couple games by now not be 0-5... but unless you WATCH a game all you see is the bad highlights which there are plenty, but there is some upside on a very young team. We'll see tho.

 

[Hasselbeck]

guess you didnt read, Im not saying they are even good really, but if we run the ball we have a good chance... and Im saying they are better than the Bills... if thats pumping a team up then Id hate to see how bad the homerism is with other teams fans. we lost to 3 division leaders, and the Bucs :facepalm: and Bengals. I did expect us to win a couple games by now not be 0-5... but unless you WATCH a game all you see is the bad highlights which there are plenty, but there is some upside on a very young team. We'll see tho.

That's true. There is after all, only 11 more games (tops) of the John Fox era.

You guys should trade Steve Smith so he can, for once, play with an actual quarterback.

 

[DDRGuido]

cool, consider it booked then?

OOBL we doing this? $100 via paypal to the winner.

 

[packersfan4eva]

They both go undefeated the rest of the year...?

 

[for surtain 22]

guess you didnt read, Im not saying they are even good really, but if we run the ball we have a good chance... and Im saying they are better than the Bills... if thats pumping a team up then Id hate to see how bad the homerism is with other teams fans. we lost to 3 division leaders, and the Bucs :facepalm: and Bengals. I did expect us to win a couple games by now not be 0-5... but unless you WATCH a game all you see is the bad highlights which there are plenty, but there is some upside on a very young team. We'll see tho.

Every team has some promise, and with the current nature of the NFL I wouldn't be surprised if you guys turn it around and are solid in a few years... but you're definitely very bad as a team right now. Most of that is probably mentality problems, not talent problems, but still, you guys suck.

 

[Cody]

I am going to say Carolina gets the win of SF this week.

 

[SuperKevin]

Carolina has THE DEVIN THOMAS. They'll win out the rest of the year

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

Carolina has THE DEVIN THOMAS. They'll win out the rest of the year

thanked x a million lmao... he's fun to use in Madden :shifty: Devin has been a bust so far really, but is hands down better then Edwards, LaFell, and Jarrett was. I was kinda hoping we would trade away Smitty and pack it in. Keeping him could mean many things... hopefully he's a "tutor" for AJ Green, cuz rookies need to learn how to punch a DB in the face no matter what team they are on

 

[Hasselbeck]

thanked x a million lmao... he's fun to use in Madden :shifty: Devin has been a bust so far really, but is hands down better then Edwards, LaFell, and Jarrett was. I was kinda hoping we would trade away Smitty and pack it in. Keeping him could mean many things... hopefully he's a "tutor" for AJ Green, cuz rookies need to learn how to punch a DB in the face no matter what team they are on

How could you say he's better than Edwards and LaFell? YOU GUYS HAVE NO QUARTERBACK!

Not like you're trotting Tom Brady out there every week. Your QB's blow.