Will AP be the last running back to win MVP?

[ThomasTomasz]

Never again is a long time.....be that as it may, discuss.

 

[Golden Taters]

No.

All these high powered passing offenses will fade and this will become a run league again.

 

[MVPete]

No.

All these high powered passing offenses will pass one day and this will be a run league again.

Worded poorly :tiptoe:.

 

[Golden Taters]

lol worded terribly

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Any halfway decent RB can get 1500 in this league. Its retard easy to catch between the numbers. Another RB will eventually get MVP but more due to his dual threat label than his work on the ground.

 

[MrBill]

There aren't just many AP's out there. He is a once in a generation talent but I do think we will see another RB win MVP within the next 10 seasons. The league is just dominated by QB's with the evolution of the passing game.

 

[NAHSTE]

There aren't just many AP's out there. He is a once in a generation talent but I do think we will see another RB win MVP within the next 10 seasons. .

BugaNation bruh

 

[Maynard]

its not like the RB are worse and AD is a rarity. The rules dictate the passing game as the focus. Those same rules have restricted the run game because the NFL wants passing.

There is no reason why we wont see another MVP RB and someone who will rush for 2000 yards. will easily happen in the next 5 years

 

[JeremyHight]

No. Some running back will come in, get 2000 yards and 20 tds, then promptly fade off the face of the Earth like every other RB does lately.

 

[dell71]

its not like the RB are worse and AD is a rarity. The rules dictate the passing game as the focus. Those same rules have restricted the run game because the NFL wants passing.

There is no reason why we wont see another MVP RB and someone who will rush for 2000 yards. will easily happen in the next 5 years

That isn't quite true. The rules have helped the passing games, which has in turned helped the offenses because the NFL does want more points. However, these same rules have aided the rushing game as well. It's a lot easier to run against 7 in the box as opposed to 8 and often defenses are even more spread out than that. Defenses have to focus more on the pass because just about every team can do it. The steady increase of league-wide Comp% and TD-Int Ratio, plus our naked eye can attest to this.

At the same time, league wide yards per rushing attempt has also been trending up. Going back to '08, league y/a has been either 4.2 or 4.3 every year, 6 straight years. Btw, 2011 & '12 are the only years it has ever been as high as 4.3. It was 4.1 in '07 and 4.2 in '06, making it 7 of 8 years of at least 4.2. Go back to 2000. League y/a was 4.1 that year and has been at least that high every year since except for '05 when it was 4.0. Now think about this, from 1999 back to the beginning of time, 1932 in this case, league average has only been as high as 4.1 15 times. A six year stretch from 1958 to '63 accounts for 40% of these with the rest spread out once or twice a decade. Most seasons the average was 3.9 or 4.0. Just in the 90s, it 3.9 or lower in six of ten years.

I know, a tenth or two-tenths of a yard doesn't sound like much, but it is a sign that the running game has not been restricted in any way, shape or form. A little less utilized, for sure, but not restricted.

As far as the actual discussion, I do think another RB will win MVP, whether one busts out for 2000 yards rushing or 2400 yards from scrimmage (rushing & receiving) with a bunch of TDs. It just has to happen in the same year when some QB doesn't throw a gazillion more TD passes than anyone else.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

That isn't quite true. The rules have helped the passing games, which has in turned helped the offenses because the NFL does want more points. However, these same rules have aided the rushing game as well. It's a lot easier to run against 7 in the box as opposed to 8 and often defenses are even more spread out than that. Defenses have to focus more on the pass because just about every team can do it. The steady increase of league-wide Comp% and TD-Int Ratio, plus our naked eye can attest to this.

At the same time, league wide yards per rushing attempt has also been trending up. Going back to '08, league y/a has been either 4.2 or 4.3 every year, 6 straight years. Btw, 2011 & '12 are the only years it has ever been as high as 4.3. It was 4.1 in '07 and 4.2 in '06, making it 7 of 8 years of at least 4.2. Go back to 2000. League y/a was 4.1 that year and has been at least that high every year since except for '05 when it was 4.0. Now think about this, from 1999 back to the beginning of time, 1932 in this case, league average has only been as high as 4.1 15 times. A six year stretch from 1958 to '63 accounts for 40% of these with the rest spread out once or twice a decade. Most seasons the average was 3.9 or 4.0. Just in the 90s, it 3.9 or lower in six of ten years.

I know, a tenth or two-tenths of a yard doesn't sound like much, but it is a sign that the running game has not been restricted in any way, shape or form. A little less utilized, for sure, but not restricted.

As far as the actual discussion, I do think another RB will win MVP, whether one busts out for 2000 yards rushing or 2400 yards from scrimmage (rushing & receiving) with a bunch of TDs. It just has to happen in the same year when some QB doesn't throw a gazillion more TD passes than anyone else.

:thumbsup: Great post.

 

[Maynard]

i guess saying the rules have restricted the run game is incorrect. a better way to say it is officiated restricts the run game. holding calls seems to be actively called on run plays more so than pass. mind you i have no evidence of this and its just how it appears to me. like how block in the back is called on almost all returns

 

[Obst]