St. Francisco's All-Time QB Coach Mode Sliders

[Nukleopatra]

Keep this shit up and I might be tempted to give the game another rental.

Final results should be stickied.

[St. Francisco]

Keep this shit up and I might be tempted to give the game another rental.

Final results should be stickied.

Out of sheer curiosity, what made you not buy the game after playing it?

I've also got a guy over at OS running a test with the QB priority sliders of pocket vs. scrambler to see if moving that effects how many rushing attempts a QB will take in a season. Should be interesting to see those results...if it does, then adjusting the priorities of all positions could make for some interesting testing.

If my test here goes well, I'm gonna start messing with the offensive aggressiveness slider to see if it effects stats in any way.

[St. Francisco]

Man, time really flew by tonight, and I've gotta get to bed. I've finished typing up some of the results of the test, so tomorrow I'm gonna finish them, analyze them, and then post them.

I go on days off Wednesday night for six days...so for the final four days of this week, I should be able to get in some hardcore testing.

[St. Francisco]

Ok, so some things were brought to my attention yesterday, and some things came to me while I lay pondering in bed.

1. Big thanks to angels28 at OS for doing a quick test on priority sliders...but it comes with bad news. Adjusting a QB's priority from pocket to scrambler does not effect the number of rushing or passing attempts he will make in any given year. So, no need to mess with those. Still, we need to know if the 0-100 priority sliders effect anything. So, that's a test for later.

2. I'm an idiot. angels28 brought something to my attention that I never even considered...when he ran his tests, he turned injuries off to eliminate any irregularities in his results. Why in the world didn't I think of that?! As such, I've decided to scrap the test work I did last night and start again.

3. You can only adjust pass/run and RB1/RB2 by 10% each time...so there's no need to directly compare them to real life NFL stats, because we can't get them to match up. Instead, I should be focused on what the averages will be at each setting. So, that's what I'm gonna do.

Now we're still looking for the same results, but we're gonna eliminate just a few of the areas because I have deemed them unnecessary since I don't plan on setting any team at those ratios. Therefore, I don't care about those results. So, here's what we're looking for:

30/70 pass/run - A run-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the running plays average between 55-60%.

40/60 pass/run - A balanced offensive attack where we will consistently see the running plays average between 50-55%.

50/50 pass/run - A balanced offensive attack where we will consistently see the passing plays average between 50-55%.

60/40 pass/run - A pass-heavy offensive attack where we will consistently see the passing plays average between 55-60%.


And these for RB sliders:

90/10 RB1/RB2 - 60-70% of carries go to starter.

80/20 RB1/RB2 - 55-65% of carries go to starter.

70/30 RB1/RB2 - 50-60% of carries go to starter.

60/40 RB1/RB2 - 45-55% of carries go to starter.


We've got four different areas in both categories, so I'm going to set up eight teams to test each area.

Hopefully, I'll be able to post results tonight.

[St. Francisco]

Ok, I'm officially off duty now for the next six days...so prepare for some hardcore testing.

[St. Francisco]

Ok, it's results time! I just went alphabetically through the teams, and assigned ratios.

The first set of eight teams had a pass/run ratio of 30/70, and a RB1/RB2 setting of 90/10. We're looking for their running plays to be between 55-60%, and for their starting runningback to carry the ball 60-70% of the time:


CHICAGO BEARS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 36/64 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 64% of carries to starter


CINCINNATI BENGALS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 37/63 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter


BUFFALO BILLS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 37/63 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 69% of carries to starter


DENVER BRONCOS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 36/64 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter


CLEVELAND BROWNS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 33/67 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 66% of carries to starter


TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 35/65 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 60% of carries to starter


ARIZONA CARDINALS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 38/62 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 71% of carries to starter


SAN DIEGO CHARGERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 35/65 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter

So, we miscalculated on the pass/run ratio...instead of seeing running plays average between 55-60% of the total offensive plays, we saw seven of the eight test teams fall within 60-65%. The only team that didn't fall within that 5% range (Cleveland) was actually higher than that, at 67%. So, it is safe to assume that a 30/70 pass/run setting will get you 60-65% of running plays on offense.

On the RB sliders, I think we can re-define the percentage numbers we're aiming for in this area. Five of the eight teams fell within the range of 65-70%, while two more fell within one percent of that range...so we'll just say that seven of our eight test teams hit a 5% window. Arizona fell below the mark at 60%...but hey, it's a video game, and it's football. We should expect to see the occasional team steer away from the norm.

The second set of eight teams had a pass/run ratio of 40/60, and a RB1/RB2 setting of 80/20. We're looking for their running plays to be between 50-55%, and for their starting runningback to carry the ball 55-65% of the time:


KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 45/55 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 66% of carries to starter


INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 45/55 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 65% of carries to starter


DALLAS COWBOYS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 41/59 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 58% of carries to starter


MIAMI DOLPHINS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 44/56 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter


PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 45/55% pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 58% of carries to starter


ATLANTA FALCONS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 43/57 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 64% of carries to starter


SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 46/54 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 66% of carries to starter


NEW YORK GIANTS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 41/59 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 61% of carries to starter

Looking over the numbers, it's clear that a setting of 40/60 will give you 55-60% of running plays on offense. Seven of the eight teams fell within that range, with one team falling just one percent out of that range. This is five percent higher than we expected, but it's also in line with our first set of test teams, so that's good.

RB sliders...we saw roughly 65% of the carries go to the starter, which isn't much different than the 90/10 setting. We did however see two teams hit 58%. So, I think we can safely scrap the 90/10 setting, and just stick to trying to achieve somewhere around 65% with the 80/20 setting.

The third set of eight teams had a pass/run ratio of 50/50, and a RB1/RB2 setting of 70/30. We're looking for their passing plays to be between 50-55%, and for their starting runningback to carry the ball 50-60% of the time:


JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 55/45 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 50% of carries to starter


NEW YORK JETS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 55% of carries to starter


DETROIT LIONS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 56% of carries to starter


GREEN BAY PACKERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 52/48 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 57% of carries to starter


CAROLINA PANTHERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 58% of carries to starter


NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 49/51 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 67% of carries to starter


OAKLAND RAIDERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 53/47 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 52% of carries to starter


ST. LOUIS RAMS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 54/46 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 59% of carries to starter

Hmm...so, we were right in our predictions that a 50/50 coaching philosophy would result in 50-55% of the offensive plays being pass plays. Unfortunately, this means that we were unable to achieve a set where 50-55% of the offensive plays would be run plays.

As far as the RB sliders go, I think we can agree that most fell around 55% of carries going to the starter, so we'll go with 55-60% of carries for this setting.

The fourth set of eight teams had a pass/run ratio of 60/40, and a RB1/RB2 setting of 60/40. We're looking for their passing plays to be between 55-60%, and for their starting runningback to carry the ball 45-55% of the time:


BALTIMORE RAVENS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 60/40 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 43% of carries to starter


WASHINGTON REDSKINS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 60/40 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 52% of carries to starter


NEW ORLEANS SAINTS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 55% of carries to starter


SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 62/38 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 52% of carries to starter


PITTSBURGH STEELERS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 48% of carries to starter


HOUSTON TEXANS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 60/40 pass/run
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 54% of carries to starter


TENNESSEE TITANS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 57/43 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 57% of carries to starter


MINNESOTA VIKINGS

Pass-to-Run Ratio: 59/41 pass/run %
Starter-to-Backups Ratio: 54% of carries to starter

I think we can all agree that a setting of 60/40 pass/run will give you a nearly perfect percentage of 60% passing plays almost every time.

On the RB sliders...as with the 90/10 and 80/20 setting, we didn't see much change from the 70/30 and 60/40 setting. This is in line with our previous thoughts. In dual RB systems around the league, we typically saw 40-50% of the carries going to the starter, so we'll need to test the 50/50 setting to see if we can achieve this result.


CONCLUSION

It's relatively easy to adjust the pass/run ratios and hit your target percentage for passing and running plays. RB sliders are also adjustable, but the results fluctuate more than the pass/run results. Still, we can achieve percentages close to what we're looking for most of the time.


FINDINGS

30/70 pass/run % = A run-heavy offense where 60-65% of the offensive plays will be running plays.

40/60 pass/run % = A run-heavy offense where 55-60% of the offensive plays will be running plays.

50/50 pass/run % = A balanced offense where 50-55% of the offensive plays will be passing plays.

60/40 pass/run % = A pass-heavy offense where 55-60% of the offensive plays will be passing plays.

90/10 & 80/20 RB1/RB2 Sliders = Roughly 65% of the carries will go to the starter. You can expect to be on the high side of that number with 90/10, and on the low side of that number with 80/20.

70/30 & 60/40 RB1/RB2 Sliders = Roughly 55% of the carries will go to the starter. You can expect to be on the high side of that number with 70/30, and on the low side of that number with 60/40.


TESTS

1. From our NFL profiles, teams in a dual RB system typically handed the ball off to their starter 40-50% of the time. Can we achieve these numbers with 50/50 and 40/60 RB sliders?

[St. Francisco]

My attentions are now being moved to the area of rushing touchdowns...is there something I can adjust in the coaching schemes to boost this number?

angels28 is currently adjusting offensive aggression sliders to see if they can have an effect. So, I will focus on the position priority settings...has anyone ever noticed that every single position for every single team is set at 100? This is odd.

With every team set at 50/50 pass/run and 70/30 RB1/RB2, I'll record passing and rushing touchdowns for half of the teams with 100 priority settings for QB, RB, and WR. Then I'll use those same 16 teams, and re-simulate with QB and WR turned to 0. Maybe this can help.

[St. Francisco]

PRIORITY @ 100              QB/WR @ 0
TEAM            PT   RT     TEAM            PT   RT
Chicago         18   05     Chicago         27   04
Cincinnati      29   03     Cincinnati      23   02
Buffalo         27   06     Buffalo         25   04
Denver          25   00     Denver          33   06
Cleveland       15   05     Cleveland       17   02
Tampa Bay       11   04     Tampa Bay       20   05
Arizona         29   06     Arizona         29   03
San Diego       28   05     San Diego       31   08
Kansas City     22   09     Kansas City     28   08
Indianapolis    21   03     Indianapolis    25   04
Dallas          30   07     Dallas          31   03
Miami           23   06     Miami           29   04
Philadelphia    34   04     Philadelphia    34   05
Atlanta         29   09     Atlanta         43   11
San Francisco   26   06     San Francisco   24   06
N.Y. Giants     28   07     N.Y. Gianta     29   10

No change...this leads me to believe that priority ratings are exclusively centered around CPU draft logic, and have no effect on stats.

[St. Francisco]

I tried adjusting defensive sliders to 100% pass and 0% aggression...rushing TD numbers remained the same.

Hmm...this sucks. It appears as though nothing can be done in the coaching sliders to boost rushing TD numbers.

[St. Francisco]

amazing work going on here.

Thanks...decided to take a break until the patch is released.