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  • Bmore
    The True Free-Man
    • Oct 2008
    • 6256

    #16
    Originally posted by KOACHK
    A nano blitz is usually an overload of the guard-center-guard gap. You just have to call the right blocking schemes and plays to counter it.

    HB at FB is a PACKAGE in Madden; plus didn't we see a HB at FB during the Seattle at TB Monday Night Football game? ...

    Unfortunately "SIM" seems to be more synonymous with "Sucks In Madden", and most people that subscribe to that philosophy tend to find out that they don't know as much about football strategy as they thought they did, and proceed to do things like starting this thread.

    -LESS BLABBIN', MORE LABBIN' Sim-sters!
    If we had a AHOTW ("ass hat of the week" for you newer people.) award this guy would take the cake.


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    • Rush
      vsn has rizzen

      • Oct 2008
      • 15931

      #17
      Originally posted by KOACHK
      A nano blitz is usually an overload of the guard-center-guard gap. You just have to call the right blocking schemes and plays to counter it.

      HB at FB is a PACKAGE in Madden; plus didn't we see a HB at FB during the Seattle at TB Monday Night Football game? ...

      Unfortunately "SIM" seems to be more synonymous with "Sucks In Madden", and most people that subscribe to that philosophy tend to find out that they don't know as much about football strategy as they thought they did, and proceed to do things like starting this thread.

      -LESS BLABBIN', MORE LABBIN' Sim-sters!
      There is no skill for freestyle players at all. FB Dive all game lol.

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      • steeljake
        6 rings...
        • Oct 2008
        • 8752

        #18
        Originally posted by KOACHK
        A nano blitz is usually an overload of the guard-center-guard gap. You just have to call the right blocking schemes and plays to counter it.

        HB at FB is a PACKAGE in Madden; plus didn't we see a HB at FB during the Seattle at TB Monday Night Football game? ...

        Unfortunately "SIM" seems to be more synonymous with "Sucks In Madden", and most people that subscribe to that philosophy tend to find out that they don't know as much about football strategy as they thought they did, and proceed to do things like starting this thread.

        -LESS BLABBIN', MORE LABBIN' Sim-sters!
        bitchassedness factor: 15


        23:33 OnlyOneBeerLeft: jake nobody listens to you aint you supposed to die from cancer or somethin soon?

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        • DSpydr84
          I need a sub
          • Oct 2008
          • 2605

          #19
          I hate that you started the arguement by saying that Madden is just a game and it will never be realistic, yet you end it with "they do it in real life".

          Obviously arguing just to argue. You have a great league, and you're not representing it well at all right now.

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          • Archer
            Go the fuck outside
            • Oct 2008
            • 15303

            #20
            Both styles have areas that can be enjoyed for me , im not gonna go into it but to say playing sim is putting yourself in a box isint how i see it

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            • I LastWish I
              Float On, Float On,
              • Oct 2008
              • 8760

              #21
              lol @ you guys. get real, grow up. people can play the game how they want. its not like you have to play people that don't play the way you like. thats why there is sites/leagues/tourneys for each.

              chill out, jesus

              Originally posted by Gonzo
              LW is probably the most solid poster VSN has to offer.

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              • Point Blank
                Needs a hobby
                • Oct 2008
                • 14184

                #22
                lol @ this thread.

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                • Obst
                  RIP West
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4182

                  #23
                  I've never understood really what "Sim" is. People say its a real representation of what is seen in the NFL. If thats the case, then say I put in Shawne Merriman as my fullback, I'm almost positive the guy I'm playing would flip out and say "Thats not sim." But turn on an NFL game and watch Mike Vrabel catch a touchdown pass, watch Ronnie Brown lineup at QB, watch Joe Flacco catch a bomb. But none of those things are "Sim". So is "Sim" a true representation of the NFL?

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                  • Rush
                    vsn has rizzen

                    • Oct 2008
                    • 15931

                    #24
                    But why do you want to play a game not reflective of how it's played on sunday? That is the part I don't understand.

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                    • Rush
                      vsn has rizzen

                      • Oct 2008
                      • 15931

                      #25
                      Originally posted by KOACHK
                      Rush, you know damn well when it boils down to it, freestyle/tourney games end up looking like what we see on Sunday. On Sunday, coaches try everything within their power to win within the rules; they could give a crap about what the opposing coach thinks of that. Just like Singletary last Sunday: "We don't run a charity here!" ...
                      Of course you will do everything in your power to win the game. However there is a difference by using playcalling, personnel, and packages as opposed to rocket catching in quadruple coverage and using the same play over and over. You cannot compare freestyle/tourney playing to realistic football on sundays. The_Obst made a great point of having Vrabel in at FB, or Flacco lined up to catch a bomb. However that stuff isn't exploited or taken advantage of. EA didn't put "rocket catching" into the game, it's a clearly defined exploit in the AI of the game.

                      Every year tournament players don't find "new strategies" they find exploits in the game and think that it's skill. There is nothing wrong with playing freestyle, not by any means. I am just saying to say it's realistic is the most stupid thing I've ever heard outside of Point Blank having his own child.

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                      • I LastWish I
                        Float On, Float On,
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 8760

                        #26
                        lol, point blank is a dad?!

                        Originally posted by Gonzo
                        LW is probably the most solid poster VSN has to offer.

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                        • DSpydr84
                          I need a sub
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 2605

                          #27
                          Originally posted by I LastWish I
                          lol, point blank is a dad?!

                          *waits for point blank smiely*

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                          • Archer
                            Go the fuck outside
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 15303

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KOACHK
                            I understand Archer, but this is the problem I've always had with the "sim" vs. Freestyle/Tourney argument; there is really nothing solid on the "sim" side to compare Freestyle/Tourney tenants to -It's just too subjective and based on emotion.

                            Case in point: Do you think Bellichek screamed "That's not SIM!" when the Dolphins lined up in the WildCat formation? ...
                            Heres my point , i played a guy in a freestyle league , all he did was rocket curls all game , i started to stop his curls , he lost ...this guy was 8-4 at the time but thats not important . It made me want to punch myself in the face repeatdly watching that every down , even though i won i felt like i should have quit and not wasted 40minutes on that crap as he didnt run another play but a qb sneak in the whole game . Maybe my rambling has no point but id rather play a sim game v someone who uses the whole playbook (ur allowed to have "Money plays aslong as u dont abuse the hell out of them") and lose than win a game v sum1 who has one offensive move. Dont get me wrong iv played many freestyle ballars who are fun to play so im not sayin all freestlyers are boring , I also beleive u said sim people are the weak ones ( i could be wrong) , i dissagree theres some really good players in sim leagues who could compete in freestyle leagues and do.

                            ps.i play both btw depending on the league im in
                            Last edited by Archer; 10-29-2008, 01:37 PM.

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                            • DSpydr84
                              I need a sub
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 2605

                              #29
                              Originally posted by KOACHK
                              Let's be real here .... People who fly the "Sim" flag want to play the softball version of Madden -that's their prerogative; but there are some "Simmers" that will go as far to say idiotic things such as "All Freestyle/Tourney players must die!" -It's like they're mad at the fact we are having fun playing the game.
                              This is kind of haughty.

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                              • Saluki
                                Ball So Hard
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 9445

                                #30
                                Originally posted by KOACHK
                                One more thing ... -Why is the most successful online Madden league a freestyle league, and not a "sim" one? ...
                                Because, madden being a GAME, there are an abundance of people who would rather play it however they felt like than follow a set of rules. Simply put it is one of the most successful because the idea of free play appeals to more online users. Doesn't make it any better or worse.

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