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  • Misogi
    :misogi:
    • Oct 2008
    • 2132

    Originally posted by Twigg4075
    You can never underestimate the power of the fanboy. Companies like Capcom, Nintendo and Apple have been banking on this for years. Nintendo can keep putting out the same games over and over and eat them up. Granted, they are usually quality games. They also have a tendency for re-releasing games multiple times, most recently with Ocarina of Time on 3DS. Then you have Apple that release a new iPhone or iPad every few months and people just buy it because it's an Apple product and it's the "hip" thing to have. Most of them have no fucking clue what the products are capable of or can do. Hell, I just read a tweet by Tony Hawk the other day that said he kept trying to give a friend directions and they were "writing it down" and were confused. He finally asked "Don't you have an iPhone?" and they replied "Yeah". He was dumbfounded. But that is the mentality these sheep have. Jeff Gerstmann from Giant Bomb mentioned the same thing recently where he said he had several friends with iPhones that constantly say "I just need a phone that makes phone calls and lets me send texts." Then why the fuck do you have an iPhone?!? Capcom has been pretty egregious with it in recent years with small incremental changes to games like MvC and SF4 with retail re-releases, ridiculous DLC initiatives of charging for unlocks of content that is already on the disk (Mercenaries mode in RE5) and of course the whole Re:Mercenaries 3D fiasco on 3DS.

    This MvC stuff is really no different than $15 map packs for CoD games. The CoD fanboys, the ones that play nothing but those games 10 hours per day, defend the maps because "I get my monies worth because I've played the game for hundreds of hours" but they aren't seeing the big picture and what a terrible precedence they are helping create by supporting this bullshit. My cousin is one of these clowns. When Elite was first announced he immediately said he was buying it. When I asked him if he knew what the fuck it even was he replied "Nope. But it's CoD and I buy anything CoD." Idiot.
    To be fair, I spend an UNGODLY amount of time playing fighting games, and they are primarily the only games i play. I have spent about 110 hours on MvC3, and 600 hours on SSF4/AE.

    I find these purchases justifiable because the gameplay is always refreshing to me. And while a COD map pack is just a map pack (and, horrendously overpriced at all), if you tell me that my game is going to receive an overall makeover with all the kinks, everything will be competitively rebalanced, and you're going to add new characters to play as for 15 bucks (In the case of Arcade Edition as DLC), or as 40 bucks, i'm probably gonna buy it.

    I understand that if you're a casual player in fighting games, it seems dumb to you. But don't get all gung-ho on it when it's pretty much all I play, and the changes you find small aren't really small to me. It's different from apple because the iPad is just a completely new system, and like you said, people do it to be "hip". It's different from Nintendo, because Nintendo LITERALLY shells out re-hashses of their shit, whereas Capcom actually provides differences. If you don't like it, you don't buy it..it's that simple. Most people that I talk to about UMvC3 are actually pretty pumped about it now that they've seen the changes that are going to happen.

    Then again, I COULD just be a fanboy, but I buy the new iterations/versions because they are considered to be the "norm".

    Sidenote: I've probably spent more money on entering tournaments than I have on videogames in the past year, now that I think about it..
    * Chrispy logs into KGs account to see what misogi wrote* [05:53 PM]

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    • A Tasty Burgerr
      ▄█▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀
      • Oct 2008
      • 5916

      The real question is do any of the moves you have mastered translate to real life?

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      • Misogi
        :misogi:
        • Oct 2008
        • 2132

        Originally posted by A Tasty Burgerr
        The real question is do any of the moves you have mastered translate to real life?
        No, but the earnings i've made from tournaments is greater than the amount I've spent in tournaments, so not all is lost.
        * Chrispy logs into KGs account to see what misogi wrote* [05:53 PM]

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        • Twigg4075
          Kindergarten Cop
          • Feb 2009
          • 20056

          Originally posted by Misogi

          Then again, I COULD just be a fanboy, but I buy the new iterations/versions because they are considered to be the "norm".

          Sidenote: I've probably spent more money on entering tournaments than I have on videogames in the past year, now that I think about it..
          This is really all I took out or your post and it basically proved the point I was making. You're a pretty obvious fanboy. It's actually pretty funny that you agreed with everything I said except the Capcom stuff. LOL. If that isn't blind fanboyism I'm not sure what it is.

          LOL at the groan too. Does the truth hurt that much bro?

          If you're a fan, fine. But don't be blind to the fact that Capcom is taking advantage of and banking on your random.

          Just listen to any gaming podcast or read any game article pertaining to this very topic. The neutral Gamers, like myself, all feel the same way. It's bullshit.

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          • hackett
            the dude abides
            • Aug 2009
            • 2062

            shenanigans

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            • Twigg4075
              Kindergarten Cop
              • Feb 2009
              • 20056

              Renegade Ops



              I'm getting more excited by the day about this game. It's like NES Jackal on steroids.

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              • Misogi
                :misogi:
                • Oct 2008
                • 2132

                Originally posted by Twigg4075
                This is really all I took out or your post and it basically proved the point I was making. You're a pretty obvious fanboy. It's actually pretty funny that you agreed with everything I said except the Capcom stuff. LOL. If that isn't blind fanboyism I'm not sure what it is.

                LOL at the groan too. Does the truth hurt that much bro?

                If you're a fan, fine. But don't be blind to the fact that Capcom is taking advantage of and banking on your random.

                Just listen to any gaming podcast or read any game article pertaining to this very topic. The neutral Gamers, like myself, all feel the same way. It's bullshit.
                What truth? It's a 40 dollar, if not 15 dollar investment on my end, and I usually get more out of it than I do any other game. If you're casual, you're probably not going to be entering any competitions, you're probably not going to be requesting changes happen to your game, and more importantly, you're probably not going to play the game for that long.

                Let's say that UMvC3 was released via DLC, character by character like originally planned. 12 new characters (Assuming that overall balance changes to the game are actually going to be free a la Blazblue), At 5 bucks a character, that's 60 dollars. This is 40 dollars.

                The only thing that's bullshit about UMvC3 in comparison to the others (Street Fighter 4, Super Street Fighter 4, Arcade Edition), is that MvC3 hasn't really been out a year. I agreed with everything but the Capcom stuff because everything else was true, but to say "yeah there's only a small number of changes to each one" is bullshit. That's probably why I groaned you.

                If you're gonna be casual, then it's probably not for you. The problem is that you're trying to "call it like you see it", but you aren't doing a very good job seeing it outside of some casual podcast that you listen to. By the same argument, you probably shouldn't be buying another fucking sports game ever year, because EA/2k Deals out games with small, incremental changes within almost the same timeframe.
                * Chrispy logs into KGs account to see what misogi wrote* [05:53 PM]

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                • SethMode
                  Master of Mysticism
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5754

                  Originally posted by Twigg4075
                  This is really all I took out or your post and it basically proved the point I was making. You're a pretty obvious fanboy. It's actually pretty funny that you agreed with everything I said except the Capcom stuff. LOL. If that isn't blind fanboyism I'm not sure what it is.

                  LOL at the groan too. Does the truth hurt that much bro?

                  If you're a fan, fine. But don't be blind to the fact that Capcom is taking advantage of and banking on your random.

                  Just listen to any gaming podcast or read any game article pertaining to this very topic. The neutral Gamers, like myself, all feel the same way. It's bullshit.
                  Dude, you come across like a MASSIVE douche in this post. Just let him do whatever he wants to do with his money. Especially regarding this because you admittedly know NOTHING about fighting games OR the fighting game culture. Come down off of your high horse before you fall and hurt yourself.

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                  • Misogi
                    :misogi:
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2132

                    Just received my PS2-to-Xb360 Converter. So fucking pumped.
                    * Chrispy logs into KGs account to see what misogi wrote* [05:53 PM]

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                    • Saluki
                      Ball So Hard
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 9445

                      Originally posted by Misogi
                      Just received my PS2-to-Xb360 Converter. So fucking pumped.
                      What teh fuck is this?

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                      • jms493
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11248

                        Capcom would not make all these crazy reiterations if they didn't sell. Ultimately blame the consumer if you are mad...they are the voters here.

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                        • Misogi
                          :misogi:
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 2132

                          Originally posted by Saluki
                          What teh fuck is this?
                          Allows me to play on an Xbox 360 with a ps2 controller.
                          Originally posted by jms493
                          Capcom would not make all these crazy reiterations if they didn't sell. Ultimately blame the consumer if you are made...they are the voters here.
                          As long as I feel it's worth it, I have no problem with buying the new iteration (unless they severely fuck something up, of course).
                          * Chrispy logs into KGs account to see what misogi wrote* [05:53 PM]

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                          • Saluki
                            Ball So Hard
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9445

                            I refuse to buy until they make Dan Hibiki a playable character

                             

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                            • Twigg4075
                              Kindergarten Cop
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 20056

                              Originally posted by SethMode
                              Dude, you come across like a MASSIVE douche in this post. Just let him do whatever he wants to do with his money. Especially regarding this because you admittedly know NOTHING about fighting games OR the fighting game culture. Come down off of your high horse before you fall and hurt yourself.
                              Of course he can do whatever he wants. But when people like him support ridiculous practices like that, companies like Capcom continue those practices. Then other companies try the same bullshit and then ALL gamers suffer, not just the ones that support the idiotic practices.

                              So yeah, I'm on my high horse. It's called general fucking logic!
                              Originally posted by jms493
                              Capcom would not make all these crazy reiterations if they didn't sell. Ultimately blame the consumer if you are mad...they are the voters here.
                              Did you read my previous posts? That's what I was doing. I blame people like Misogi for supporting such terrible practices.

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                              • IamMedellin
                                Everything Burns...
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10910

                                20,000 GamerScore!!!!!!




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