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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    Originally posted by Twigg4075
    I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.
    I've never seen the mirroring issue corrected with any slider setting but 35 and below. In game or in practice mode. I've tinkered with that slider a lot. I will try it again tonight but I was almost 100% positive 35 was the max you could go with no mirroring.

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    • Maynard
      stupid ass titles
      • Feb 2009
      • 17876

      Originally posted by Twigg4075
      I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.
      broken could be one way to describe. I think of it as unbalanced. If EA made the threshold at 50 instead of 35 we wouldnt think of it as broke, it would just be balanced.

      keep in mind that this is only a man to man issue. Using a 10 yard in pattern as an example. What happens is the WR goes 10 yards and makes his break in. The problem is that the DB will make his break before or at the same time as the WR. With higher coverage slider the DB break before (most of the time) the WR, but sometimes the play works as is should and the DB gets fooled so to speak and the WR is open.

      Lower the slider down to 35 and the DB does not break on the pattern and you can clearly see the WR makes his break in with the DB being 2 or more steps behind....on hooks i have seen them 3-5 yards off leaving me plenty of time to complete the pass. Of course alot of that depends on the WR and the DB ratings, but u see what i am saying.

      here is where going to 35 causes problems for people. Zone coverage gets reduced too and can cause easy completions into the coverage. U just have to lower the Accuracy to a level that is fair so that every pass isnt a gimmie.

      EA needs to tune down the man 2 man coverage so that when the slider is at 50 u can get solid zone and solid man coverage without sacrificing.

      and keep in mind that this same issue will be in madden. u just have to hope EA tunes it so it feels right.

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      • Maynard
        stupid ass titles
        • Feb 2009
        • 17876

        Originally posted by FirstTimer
        I've never seen the mirroring issue corrected with any slider setting but 35 and below. In game or in practice mode. I've tinkered with that slider a lot. I will try it again tonight but I was almost 100% positive 35 was the max you could go with no mirroring.
        i will be honest, my testing of this has been minimal and the success i may have had at 45 could have been.....not thoroughly tested
        i do know that when i went to 35 i had no troubles in practice mode

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        • Bear Pand
          RIP Indy Colts
          • Feb 2009
          • 5945

          Originally posted by Twigg4075
          I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. That part of the game sounds so fucking broken.
          It's broken in that you learn comeback routes, in/out routes, and sometimes slant routes against man coverage are basically useless. Especially to outside receivers, it doesn't seem to affect the slot receiver/tight end. These routes work really well against zone.

          Here's an example, it's not the best one because I never should've thrown this ball, but you can see the CB turn and jump my WR route before my WR even turns.

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          • FirstTimer
            Freeman Error

            • Feb 2009
            • 18729

            Well said. I've been getting pretty good results. When factoring in getign a better pass rush, more realistic coverage, and lower QB accuracy sliders for both CPU and User I've been getting really good games.

            In the end while the pass coverage may be a bit of an issue while in zone the bigger issue is getting a really good/fair pass rush. If that happens QB start hurrying their throws and become more off target which balances out the somewhat softer zones.

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            • Twigg4075
              Kindergarten Cop
              • Feb 2009
              • 20056

              Originally posted by Killa Pand
              It's broken in that you learn comeback routes, in/out routes, and sometimes slant routes against man coverage are basically useless. Especially to outside receivers, it doesn't seem to affect the slot receiver/tight end. These routes work really well against zone.

              Here's an example, it's not the best one because I never should've thrown this ball, but you can see the CB turn and jump my WR route before my WR even turns.
              Wow. Something like that would kill the game for me.

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              • FirstTimer
                Freeman Error

                • Feb 2009
                • 18729

                Originally posted by Maynard
                i will be honest, my testing of this has been minimal and the success i may have had at 45 could have been.....not thoroughly tested
                i do know that when i went to 35 i had no troubles in practice mode
                Mine hasn't been hours and horus of research but I know I tried going higher than 35 once and didn't really care for the results.35 is pretty tight coverage and you start getting up towards 40 I thought I rememebered the CPU not so much running the route before you or ahead of you but right with you.

                Originally posted by Twigg4075
                Wow. Something like that would kill the game for me.
                Yeah I think KP must be in an onlien dynasty where they have the slider set higher than 35. Which sucks. Playing on your own though it can be fixed/tuned.

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                • Bear Pand
                  RIP Indy Colts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 5945

                  Yeah its an online dynasty I'm running using some All American slider set I found on OS. I don't want to mess with the sliders too much because it's hard finding a set that works for 8-12 people. It's def getting lowered when I advance to the next week though.

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                  • ram29jackson
                    Noob
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 0

                    I also hate when your receiver is running a straight fly route and the defender is directly in front of him/impeding him, the receiver is slowed down,doesnt change direction and there is no pass interference haha


                    yet ,still, this game is fun,great on alot of levels

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                    • Twigg4075
                      Kindergarten Cop
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 20056

                      Originally posted by ram29jackson
                      I also hate when your receiver is running a straight fly route and the defender is directly in front of him/impeding him, the receiver is slowed down,doesnt change direction and there is no pass interference haha


                      yet ,still, this game is fun,great on alot of levels
                      That's fucking garbage as well.

                      I would hope they would fix both of those glaring issues with a patch.

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                      • Maynard
                        stupid ass titles
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 17876

                        so i started year 2 at #1. Beat #12 TCU 27-7 on the road, then beat #19 miami 35-16 on the road.
                        Alabama started at #2 and beat U Louisiana Monroe 33-7 at home, then beat #8 Penn St 35-10 on the road. And alabama jumps me in the polls and is now #1

                        What a bunch of bullshit. I beat 2 top 25 teams on the road by a convincing margin and i get jumped. Fuck you!

                        i wouldnt care but there is an achievement for going start to finish at #1. Not to say i wouldnt lose a game, but that is BS imo

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                        • Warner2BruceTD
                          2011 Poster Of The Year
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 26142

                          I officially give up, this game sucks. I guess i'm in the minority, but I just can't get into this game. I'll finish up my onlline dynasty commitments, and it'll be back to MLB The Show for me.

                          -Atmosphere is awful, crowds are dead, presentation is severly lacking. All of these things were better 5 years ago on the last gen by a wide margain, how is that even possible?

                          -Game does not control smoothly, players feel like they are gliding on ice.

                          -After all these years, CPU AI is still mind reading plays. For proof, pick an option run in a completely ridiculus situation like 3rd and 30, and watch the CPU mind readers run a blitz at you from the side you are running to. Disgusting.

                          -I don't understand how the game controlled better and played a better brand of football a half decade ago on previous gen. I popped in NCAA '06 for shits & giggles tonight, and it's a far superior game to this years piece of shit, and '06 wasnt even the best of the PS2 era.

                          This once great series drifted off on the wrong path around '07 or '08, and it's never getting back to what it was. It took longer than Madden to get there, but now they both officially suck. It;s incredibly disappointing that this is what we get on next gen. It;s been several years, the football games shouldnt be this bad. Don't even get me started on the Madden Demo, this crappy NCAA blows that terd out of the water.

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                          • FirstTimer
                            Freeman Error

                            • Feb 2009
                            • 18729

                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            -Atmosphere is awful, crowds are dead
                            Disagree completely. I have all my sounds sliders at default and most times I can't hear the announcers over the crowd.

                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            presentation is severly lacking.
                            Presentation is "meh". They need (much) more stat overlays and better injury notification for sure. But I don't miss showing the guys in the booth and all that shit. To each their own on some things though.


                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            -Game does not control smoothly, players feel like they are gliding on ice.
                            Haven't noticced that being a problem.

                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            After all these years, CPU AI is still mind reading plays. For proof, pick an option run in a completely ridiculus situation like 3rd and 30, and watch the CPU mind readers run a blitz at you from the side you are running to. Disgusting.
                            I've noticed that problem big time on Heisman. Not so much on other modes though. A lot of this can depend on how high you have certain sliders set like pass coverage and rush defense. If those sliders are set too high then the defense doesn't read and react to the play, they just mirror the play/know it. It sucks bu tnot sure what your sliders are set at so this could be an issue.

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                            • FirstTimer
                              Freeman Error

                              • Feb 2009
                              • 18729

                              Originally posted by Maynard
                              so i started year 2 at #1. Beat #12 TCU 27-7 on the road, then beat #19 miami 35-16 on the road.
                              Alabama started at #2 and beat U Louisiana Monroe 33-7 at home, then beat #8 Penn St 35-10 on the road. And alabama jumps me in the polls and is now #1

                              What a bunch of bullshit. I beat 2 top 25 teams on the road by a convincing margin and i get jumped. Fuck you!

                              i wouldnt care but there is an achievement for going start to finish at #1. Not to say i wouldnt lose a game, but that is BS imo
                              SEC>>>>Big 10



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                              • Bear Pand
                                RIP Indy Colts
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 5945

                                Apparently the tuner set is out, or will be out today. I'm waiting for EA to release info on what it does so I can test it.

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