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  • MoonBBad
    Think Blue!
    • Apr 2009
    • 236

    #16
    I am not talking about user catching. If you mean selecting your guy right before the pass is about to hit their hands and making the catch. I am talking about selecting the guy mid route and bumping my corner out of the way to create an unrealistic amount of seperation.

    This is only really a problem on fly routes where it is just a straight route. Not on slants, curls, posts, etc...
    Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
    AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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    • Buzzman
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 6659

      #17
      iIm Michigan and 2nd play fot he game I ran an option with Denard Robinson and when I pitched it he caught ti and returned the fumble for a TD. Next possession I try it again but this time I fake pitch it and he falls for it 65 yard TD run. I ran the same play the rest of the game because he always went for the pitch and never the QB. Robinson ended the game with 345 yards rushing. Is that cheese for running the same play that has never worked for me before or he just sucks and never made me adjust?

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      • killgod
        OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
        • Oct 2008
        • 4714

        #18
        Originally posted by MoonBBad
        I am not talking about user catching. If you mean selecting your guy right before the pass is about to hit their hands and making the catch. I am talking about selecting the guy mid route and bumping my corner out of the way to create an unrealistic amount of seperation.

        This is only really a problem on fly routes where it is just a straight route. Not on slants, curls, posts, etc...
        I still don't see the problem. I mean, where are you as the defender? Watching the CPU get owned?

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        • MoonBBad
          Think Blue!
          • Apr 2009
          • 236

          #19
          Originally posted by Hartdaddy
          MAN I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN CHEESIN' ASS MOTHERFUCKERS TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR WR'S AND RUN AND CATCH THE BALL, TOO!!! WHAT FUCKING CHEATING ASS FAGGOTS.

          /sarcasm

          MoonBBad, welcome to online football dude... where people actually know how to skillfully play the game. also, one of the strongest fail posts I've seen in.. well, ever. well done.
          LOL, fair enough. I have been playing online football for a long time. In previous leagues I have been in it was banned because it created an unfair advantage to the receiver, even if you user controlled the DB it didn't matter. That being said, if everyone thinks it's cool than cool.

          Anytime you want to see who has skills then feel free to hit me up if you have the game for PS3 and I will gladly work you.
          Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
          AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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          • killgod
            OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
            • Oct 2008
            • 4714

            #20
            Originally posted by MoonBBad
            LOL, fair enough. I have been playing online football for a long time. In previous leagues I have been in it was banned because it created an unfair advantage to the receiver, even if you user controlled the DB it didn't matter. That being said, if everyone thinks it's cool than cool.

            Anytime you want to see who has skills then feel free to hit me up if you have the game for PS3 and I will gladly work you.
            Hopefully better than your MLB skills.

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            • MoonBBad
              Think Blue!
              • Apr 2009
              • 236

              #21
              Originally posted by killgod
              Hopefully better than your MLB skills.

              LOL please...
              Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
              AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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              • MvP
                a member of vsn
                • Oct 2008
                • 8227

                #22
                The day user catching is considered cheese is the day I quit playing football games.

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                • MoonBBad
                  Think Blue!
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 236

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MvP
                  The day user catching is considered cheese is the day I quit playing football games.
                  It's pretty much been said. I get it, everyone thinks it's cool, and I was the dunce of the thread. It happens.

                  To be clear though I didn't have a problem with user catching. I had a problem with people taking over their receiver mid route and running into my cornerback to create seperation. If that happened in the NFL or college it's offensive pass interference. I don't think I have ever seen an offensive PI called in Madden or NCAA.
                  Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
                  AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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                  • MvP
                    a member of vsn
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 8227

                    #24
                    I try to control the WR every time I pass the ball because I can usually put myself in a slightly better position to get yards after the catch. Bullet passes, deep lobs, anything. I never purposely bump into the corners to get seperation, though. I feel like I wouldn't even have enough time to do that. There is also the big risk of fucking up your route by doing this so it's not like some sort of automatic advantage. Every year my friends ask me how I user catch so well, they can't figure it out while I've been doing it since Madden 03.

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                    • MoonBBad
                      Think Blue!
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 236

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MvP
                      I try to control the WR every time I pass the ball because I can usually put myself in a slightly better position to get yards after the catch. Bullet passes, deep lobs, anything. I never purposely bump into the corners to get seperation, though. I feel like I wouldn't even have enough time to do that. There is also the big risk of fucking up your route by doing this so it's not like some sort of automatic advantage. Every year my friends ask me how I user catch so well, they can't figure it out while I've been doing it since Madden 03.
                      I feel like and correct me if I am wrong, if someone is controlling the WR on a fly route, and you go to select your CB it always slows down for a split second even if you are holding the directional button in the correct direction. I feel like when I switch to the DB they slow down a bit which makes it worse.

                      I will practice with it a bit when I get home. This again could just be a result of me doing things the way I always have and not really trying it a different way.
                      Golden Sombraro Season 2: Dodgers 10-8
                      AIM: MoonBBad YIM: omdbass PS3 ID: MoonBBad

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                      • strahanfan92
                        Meat
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 5456

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Townie33
                        Playing probably my third game online and I beat this guy who plays Florida (I am Wisconsin). He is running the crap out of his RB wide to my right side the first trip up the field the first quarter.

                        I select defend RUN RIGHT and begin to shut him down as I change my defense. No big deal, right.


                        The game gets into the 4th quarter and I'm up and begin to select defend PASS and he throws a couple of picks and I'm up 3 scores late and he disconnects.

                        I get a message about my CHEESE on predicting his runs/passes and how he is gonna report me. I laughed and went on to the next game.

                        Cheese?

                        Thanks again SHOGUN for the tip!

                        How do you do that ^^^

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                        • Twigg4075
                          Kindergarten Cop
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 20056

                          #27
                          Originally posted by MoonBBad
                          I feel like and correct me if I am wrong, if someone is controlling the WR on a fly route, and you go to select your CB it always slows down for a split second even if you are holding the directional button in the correct direction. I feel like when I switch to the DB they slow down a bit which makes it worse.
                          I do have to agree with this.

                          I know in 2010 and even previous iterations there are certain deep passes that the CPU does that can just not be defended no matter what you do. But that's a different story.

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