I'm actually starting to really hate Madden.......

[BigBucs]

It might help your punt coverage if you put the arrow all the way up. This way you don't out kick your coverage. With Andy Lee, my guys usually end up within 5 yards of the returner when he catches the punt.

Borderline cheese if the ball is still making inside the 10.

I guess Im one of the few who thinks kick covg is perfect. If someone takes one back on you its your own fault. Bad angles and dumb kicks. Mfers rarely make it past the 20 vs me.

[Realist]

like i said Bro, this has nothing to do with you.......
this is overall with any games played on this year's Madden....

1) ok - so they were at the 1 yard line - 99 yard return..not much of a difference. not only that - even if it were in the back of the endzone, it only gets shown as a 99 yard return for some reason...perhaps another bug in the game?? :doh:

Yep Annother bug in the game. I noticed that too when I played the CPU one day.

2) not saying they are not stoppable but it is pretty much a certainty that one team will get a TD on a KoR or Punt......

Not really. I dont really agree with that. Maybe a big return but not every game for a TD, but maybe thats just my games.

3) like i said - i dont consider pushing up, making a quick left or right and back up the sideline a "good return". the holes are HUGE, they open up before you get to the hole....its not hard to read that.. lol; my 10 year old can see and do it.......

Well you were darting back and forth across the field with Hall and Moss and it didn't work And the second return for ginn, i dont think i made any sudden moves, you kicked it to the right side of the field and i returned on that side for a TD

4) but it does make a difference, in any game played. its changes the flow of the game, chance of comebacks, gameplan/strategy, etc....
in our game, i kick a FG, 17-3. if you recall, i squib kicked it in the beginning to Ginn.....after the FG, i said to myself, "let me see how often the BS is...." i kicked to Ginn intentionally (both times after) and it happened.....TD!!!!.......Untouched!!!
i gave up.....
i even MSGd you after the 2nd BS TD on the KoR about it........"Total BS"....

in other words, when i start seeing dumb AI and stupid flaws in this game, i lose interest PDQ........

But you only score 3 points the entire game. Thats why I was messing with you and said it didn't change the outcome. Even if I had returned 1 and not 2.


again - this aint about you bro.......
in almost every Video i made, there was a TD on KoR or Punt.......they all had the same HUGE hole that anybody could see........go to the "Video Reels" and check them out.......its stupid.

also; i have had my share TDs on KoRs and Punts as well.....so; trust me all but 1, maybe 2, were deserved.
its so ridiculously obvious, i almost want to run outta bounds out of commen courtesy......

really....its one part of the game that is broke and everyone knows it.....
EA wants to get there patch out to fix this BS but most will be playing NBA or CoD by the time they fix this shit......

but oh well ...........


sidenote: some videos of some Hella Holes and maybe 1 legit return.....

BS TDs:

http://www.vsndaily.com/showthread.php?t=63291

http://www.vsndaily.com/showthread.php?t=63287

http://www.vsndaily.com/showpost.php?p=1276327&postcount=124

Lol; this was on a Squib Kick.....NOT!!!!

http://www.vsndaily.com/showthread.php?t=62691

the 1st PR for TD was broken tackle BS;
2nd TD on Punt maybe legit:
http://www.vsndaily.com/showthread.php?t=62686

Yea I know it wasn't about me specifically I know we are cool.. I know we are cool.

Like I said, i do know that it is easier to return kicks, but it's not impossible to stop. OOBL ran a punt on me in our 220 game. The only thing BS about it to me was that Jackson broke a tackle lol. Other than that it was a clean run. Played Zeus and he didn't get anywhere. 2 guys who are consider pretty damn good at this game and I was able to slow them down for the most part

I dont go in a game knowing someone is going to return a KR/PR against me. Like BB said, kick it in the middle, and protect the sidelines. I use the strategy that NFL coaches told their players when defending Barry Sanders: Stay where you are because if he runs away from you, more than likely he'll be coming back. I used that again you last night lol.

BTW, did I have a return in our first game?

But yes, I agree with the COD comment as well. Kind of pissed that they wont have co-op though.

[Poundtherock]

Sudden shifts in direction fuck up the AI.
If you get the shift right, you're off to the races.
This is a game issue and has nothing to do with user talent.

I agree somewhat with Dave.

I pin the blame on the locomotion. They need to tweak the ratings of the players, especially the linemen. The linemen are still not responding as well as they should to the movements of the opposing players.

Hope the next patch, whenever that might be, will address that.



As for CoD................................just pre-ordered the Prestige Edition.

Getting the RC-XD Video Surveillance Vehicle for the cats to chase! :laugh:

[Prodigal Son]

Borderline cheese if the ball is still making inside the 10.

I guess Im one of the few who thinks kick covg is perfect. If someone takes one back on you its your own fault. Bad angles and dumb kicks. Mfers rarely make it past the 20 vs me.

How can you consider making sure that the guy has to fair catch, cheese? It's a punt. It's not like it gives me any extra advantage by making you fair catch it.

[hackett]

Put your fastest available players as backups at FS, SS, OLB. These are guys that are on the kickoff team. It helps alot.

[Poundtherock]

Put your fastest available players as backups at FS, SS, OLB. These are guys that are on the kickoff team. It helps alot.

Yep, and make sure they have pretty good TAK attribs.

[x0xHumblex0x]

this has nothing to do with tackle attributes......
this is about Hella Holes that yo grandmothers can run thru.....

as mentioned, the CPU AI gets stupid on sharp cuts....its a known issue.

and there no reason to have to do all this subbing and adjustments on KoRs and PRs.

you dont see this many TDs in 1 year of the NFL......
i mean really now, have your EVER heard of TD return on a Squib Kick?? is that about bad coverage as well??

[hackett]

I know what you mean Humble. I'm not trying to defend any of what you have mentioned. I know it's b.s. Just trying to make the best of a shit sandwich by adding some hot sauce.

[Poundtherock]

I know what you mean Humble. I'm not trying to defend any of what you have mentioned. I know it's b.s. Just trying to make the best of a shit sandwich by adding some hot sauce.

Should be taken for what it is!

I have not had a prob with KR.................................yet!!! :laugh:

[JOHNNYTHECLOWN]

Borderline cheese if the ball is still making inside the 10.

I guess Im one of the few who thinks kick covg is perfect. If someone takes one back on you its your own fault. Bad angles and dumb kicks. Mfers rarely make it past the 20 vs me.

yeah i'm with BB in the idea that kick coverage is pretty realistic... your guys get stacked up, it's gonna leave some wide open hole... i hate it but i'd say this is as close as they've gotten to realistic special teams

[Steel Mamba]

this has nothing to do with tackle attributes......
this is about Hella Holes that yo grandmothers can run thru.....

as mentioned, the CPU AI gets stupid on sharp cuts....its a known issue.

and there no reason to have to do all this subbing and adjustments on KoRs and PRs.

you dont see this many TDs in 1 year of the NFL......
i mean really now, have your EVER heard of TD return on a Squib Kick?? is that about bad coverage as well??

KRs are cool and make great highlights!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuAsTZ1E3I[/ame]

[x0xHumblex0x]

KRs are cool and make great highlights!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuAsTZ1E3I

sadly;
i would pretty much say that this definitely sums up Madden 11.

nice find!!!!

[DJ Rhude]

what worse is that next year they'll have a new franchise mode (which will lack in half the features you'll expect, tho they won't say anything and cover it up till release), then adembroski will jizz all over OS about it and it'll sell 12 bajillion copies.


we're forever doomed.

I just saw this....fucking died laughing because it's true lol

[x0xHumblex0x]

I just saw this....fucking died laughing because it's true lol

go shake your controller or something...........you idle again :D


sup playa!?!?!?

aint you like expecting anyday now?? my cuz and his wife having their baby girl like now......as in now

[Wildcard]

You guys wanted Madden to be like NCAA.

Madden 10 > Madden 11.