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  • Maynard
    stupid ass titles
    • Feb 2009
    • 17875

    Originally posted by SethMode
    Man I must have done things just as Bioware designed because I only switched discs 3 times all game (same as ME2). I read some horror stories though of people being 11 hours in and having changed discs like 12 times.
    ME2...i switched 3 times...disc 1, disc2, disc 1...that was it. this game has been nonstop switching.

    Originally posted by SethMode
    I don't usually complain about it and personally had no reason to, but if I had to change a disc 1 or more times an hour, it would get pretty fucking old, especially if it were for a side quest that would last all of 5-10 minutes (which I have read is the case for some people).
    this

    i am also real interested in getting done with the game now. not because i want to see how the game ends, but because i want to know why everyone is complaining about the end

    i have avoided this thread because i dont want to read spoilers or even be led into a path of thinking

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    • jaxjaggywires
      Eradicator!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 1693

      Link

      To Mass Effect 3 players, from Dr. Ray Muzyka, co-founder of BioWare

      As co-founder and GM of BioWare, I’m very proud of the ME3 team; I personally believe Mass Effect 3 is the best work we’ve yet created. So, it’s incredibly painful to receive feedback from our core fans that the game’s endings were not up to their expectations. Our first instinct is to defend our work and point to the high ratings offered by critics – but out of respect to our fans, we need to accept the criticism and feedback with humility.

      I believe passionately that games are an art form, and that the power of our medium flows from our audience, who are deeply involved in how the story unfolds, and who have the uncontested right to provide constructive criticism. At the same time, I also believe in and support the artistic choices made by the development team. The team and I have been thinking hard about how to best address the comments on ME3’s endings from players, while still maintaining the artistic integrity of the game.

      Mass Effect 3 concludes a trilogy with so much player control and ownership of the story that it was hard for us to predict the range of emotions players would feel when they finished playing through it. The journey you undertake in Mass Effect provokes an intense range of highly personal emotions in the player; even so, the passionate reaction of some of our most loyal players to the current endings in Mass Effect 3 is something that has genuinely surprised us. This is an issue we care about deeply, and we will respond to it in a fair and timely way. We’re already working hard to do that.

      To that end, since the game launched, the team has been poring over everything they can find about reactions to the game – industry press, forums, Facebook, and Twitter, just to name a few. The Mass Effect team, like other teams across the BioWare Label within EA, consists of passionate people who work hard for the love of creating experiences that excite and delight our fans. I’m honored to work with them because they have the courage and strength to respond to constructive feedback.

      Building on their research, Exec Producer Casey Hudson and the team are hard at work on a number of game content initiatives that will help answer the questions, providing more clarity for those seeking further closure to their journey. You’ll hear more on this in April. We’re working hard to maintain the right balance between the artistic integrity of the original story while addressing the fan feedback we’ve received. This is in addition to our existing plan to continue providing new Mass Effect content and new full games, so rest assured that your journey in the Mass Effect universe can, and will, continue.

      The reaction to the release of Mass Effect 3 has been unprecedented. On one hand, some of our loyal fans are passionately expressing their displeasure about how their game concluded; we care about this feedback, and we’re planning to directly address it. However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s. Net, I’m proud of the team, but we can and must always strive to do better.

      Some of the criticism that has been delivered in the heat of passion by our most ardent fans, even if founded on valid principles, such as seeking more clarity to questions or looking for more closure, for example – has unfortunately become destructive rather than constructive. We listen and will respond to constructive criticism, but much as we will not tolerate individual attacks on our team members, we will not support or respond to destructive commentary.

      If you are a Mass Effect fan and have input for the team – we respect your opinion and want to hear it. We’re committed to address your constructive feedback as best we can. In return, I’d ask that you help us do that by supporting what I truly believe is the best game BioWare has yet crafted. I urge you to do your own research: play the game, finish it and tell us what you think. Tell your friends if you feel it’s a good game as a whole. Trust that we are doing our damndest, as always, to address your feedback. As artists, we care about our fans deeply and we appreciate your support.

      Thank you for your feedback – we are listening.

      Ray
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      • Maynard
        stupid ass titles
        • Feb 2009
        • 17875

        i didnt read that cause i dont know if it has any spoilers but i hope they fix the stupid ass side quest crap. these side quest might as well not even exsist. you dont know who game them to you and then know if you even found the fetch item

        I went to ever available system and found 100% of the available items and still cant complete any of these sidequests. is this a glitch issue or what?

        For example, i was supposed to fetch something from Benning...some record on some volus guy or something. I went there and completed a civilian rescue mission since cerberus was there taking people....i scoured every inch of that planet to find this info and couldnt find shit...i left the planet and now i cant go back to find what i need to complete the mission

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        • padman59
          Slayer of Demons
          • Mar 2009
          • 5708

          If they change the ending, it has to be free. Otherwise, BioWare is going to have another flurry of complaints going their way.

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          • SethMode
            Master of Mysticism
            • Feb 2009
            • 5754

            I really, REALLY hope that they don't change the ending outside of adding epilogues and perhaps just a little more explanation, since the ambiguity of it seems to be the major problem. Adding or trying to change it will just come off as stupid, and as if you're pandering to your fanbase instead of the conclusion you, as the creators, had in mind for the series.

            EDIT -- What I mean by that is, people are going to pitch a fucking fit regardless of what they do, so just do as little as possible in order to keep things intact yet perhaps give a slightly more specific indication of what happened to Shepard at the end.

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            • Slateman
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2777

              Originally posted by SethMode
              I really, REALLY hope that they don't change the ending outside of adding epilogues and perhaps just a little more explanation, since the ambiguity of it seems to be the major problem. Adding or trying to change it will just come off as stupid, and as if you're pandering to your fanbase instead of the conclusion you, as the creators, had in mind for the series.

              EDIT -- What I mean by that is, people are going to pitch a fucking fit regardless of what they do, so just do as little as possible in order to keep things intact yet perhaps give a slightly more specific indication of what happened to Shepard at the end.
              This isn't the conclusion that the original creators had in mind. This is them scrambling to create something else after the script got leaked.

              If they actually create an ending that makes sense, the majority of fans will appreciate it and accept it.
              The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
              As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
              If only I had died instead of you
              O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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              • SethMode
                Master of Mysticism
                • Feb 2009
                • 5754

                Originally posted by Slateman
                This isn't the conclusion that the original creators had in mind. This is them scrambling to create something else after the script got leaked.

                If they actually create an ending that makes sense, the majority of fans will appreciate it and accept it.
                Wow, I didn't realize you were privy to all of this information. Did Casey Hudson tell you that directly?

                I think that there are interpretations of the ending that make a LOT of sense. It's entirely possible that Bioware intended the ending to be ambiguous. Just because they didn't put a nice, neat little bow on it doesn't mean it wasn't the ending the creators intended.

                It is incredibly presumptuous and borderline stupid for you to say that the original creators didn't have the ending to ME3 in mind, when the original creators are the ones that made ME3. It's not like this was farmed out to a different studio or something.

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                • IamMedellin
                  Everything Burns...
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10910





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                  • SethMode
                    Master of Mysticism
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 5754

                    When I read this (warning, huge spoilers in the link):

                    A Logical Breakdown of Why the Mass Effect 3 Ending Makes No Sense Updated March 30 by letjemari[at]gmail[dot]com: Implemented Feedback for Anderson section. Disclaimer: This ain’t geek nitpicking - just basic logic and reason accessible to any rational person paying moderate attention to the e...


                     
                    the indoctrination theory just seems even more true and Bioware sound like geniuses. Granted, that's just what I take away from it.

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                    • Buzzman
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 6659

                      Originally posted by Maynard
                      i didnt read that cause i dont know if it has any spoilers but i hope they fix the stupid ass side quest crap. these side quest might as well not even exsist. you dont know who game them to you and then know if you even found the fetch item

                      I went to ever available system and found 100% of the available items and still cant complete any of these sidequests. is this a glitch issue or what?

                      For example, i was supposed to fetch something from Benning...some record on some volus guy or something. I went there and completed a civilian rescue mission since cerberus was there taking people....i scoured every inch of that planet to find this info and couldnt find shit...i left the planet and now i cant go back to find what i need to complete the mission
                      A few things are broken. Sometimes the person wont mention the quest or are stuck in the same spot and you cant talk to them. its bullshit. In your case though, even if you don't find the dog dogs on the ground for the Benning quest, you can go to the spectre terminal afterwards and pay for the information. It seems like that's their backup plan if you ever miss out on the info, just buy it later. Then obviously some missions go away after certain parts of the game. Also the Eden Prime quests have to be completed in 1 go, otherwise you can do them because you can never go back there. I was pissed that i wanted to do every quest available but a lot of them got glitched and cut out and the wrong moments.

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                      • j.hen
                        Self Care
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 10058

                        Played a couple rounds of multiplayer with JayDizzle & Padman. Got my asari adept to level 16 and finally unlocked my coveted drell vanguard

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                        • mgoblue2290
                          Posts too much
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 7174

                          So I have to get my EMS above 5000 right? Its at about 4100 right now and I'm about to attack Cerberus HQ. I'm assuming the Crucible will give me a boost. How close would I be to 5000 with the Crucible? I really do not feel like finding random shit around the galaxy for ass holes on the Citadel.

                          Also, screw Bioware for forcing me to play multiplayer to up my EMS, what a stupid fucking decision by them.

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                          • j.hen
                            Self Care
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 10058

                            Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                            So I have to get my EMS above 5000 right? Its at about 4100 right now and I'm about to attack Cerberus HQ. I'm assuming the Crucible will give me a boost. How close would I be to 5000 with the Crucible? I really do not feel like finding random shit around the galaxy for ass holes on the Citadel.

                            Also, screw Bioware for forcing me to play multiplayer to up my EMS, what a stupid fucking decision by them.
                            Multiplayer is pretty good...

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                            • mgoblue2290
                              Posts too much
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7174

                              Originally posted by jfhennedy
                              Multiplayer is pretty good...
                              Thats not the point. It should be separate, especially for someone who may want to buy the game used and not pay for the online pass, or for someone who doesn't have online gaming.

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                              • BrntO4Life
                                My Aunt Ida Smokes.
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 6865

                                Originally posted by mgoblue2290
                                So I have to get my EMS above 5000 right? Its at about 4100 right now and I'm about to attack Cerberus HQ. I'm assuming the Crucible will give me a boost. How close would I be to 5000 with the Crucible? I really do not feel like finding random shit around the galaxy for ass holes on the Citadel.

                                Also, screw Bioware for forcing me to play multiplayer to up my EMS, what a stupid fucking decision by them.
                                Its impossible, if I remember correctly, to get over 5000 EMS without playing some MP.

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