CES video of MLB 11 The Show

[ryne candy]

I'll post vids if I come across them. There is one of rain during a game but it's shaky and you can't even make out the rain (only dark skies). You can find it on the web but originally from OS.

Guy tells us what we know but it does show video of WS teams.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zj7niDCQKc[/ame]

Edit: Another video...same info... different background video.



Edit: This one is Gamestop at CES (@ 28:52).

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xvQFrg-FVU[/ame]

Edit: HR Derby
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys9HcY9w854[/ame]

Edit: HR Derby w/ Move Control
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHmzd9jokY[/ame]

[Irish]

Easily gonna be the best sports game of 2011.

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

[ryne candy]

Made another post but decided to update OP.

[Obst]

Can't wait to see the Road to the Show improvements

[Maynard]

it all sounds great. he didnt detail analog pitching like he did fielding and batting. i want more on the online leagues but what he said was great. i am really interested in online coop. 4 players on 1 team would be awesome in baseball i think

[Maynard]

from OS

Feel free to ask me any questions about the game. I won’t be able to help those who want to know about batting gloves, colors, scoreboards, stadiums, walk-ups, stances, nuances, etc, etc because I’m just not that in tune with it. Sure, I love detail but I don’t know how its changed so please don’t ask.

I know I planned on video but it just didn’t happen. I was so in to how analog controls work and what was new in the game that before I knew it my day had gone.
However I will be able to share with you what I saw and learned (or didn’t learn!) today and my hands on experience with it. Let’s first start off with the analog controls. This was one thing I deeply wanted to see and test out for myself. Keep in mind that you can do whatever combination of controls you want (online or offline). Want to do analog pitching but old interface for fielding and batting? You can. Online users will be able to have their own profile of their preferred control scheme as well before entering a game.

Analog Pitching: Let’s just say that I would be real surprised if anyone goes back to the old meter style way. Simply put this is the best addition for the use of analog. A lot of hard work and thought definitely has been put into this and it delivers. I will try to put in words how it works.

First you pick your pitch (button assigned pitches of course). Then image an ice cream cone. This is what is represented on the screen. Near the left and right edges represent the strike zone. Moving the stick where you want it to go in the strike zone (a corresponding circle will show up inside the cone based on where you placed the cursor. It will only show up on the left, right or middle at the top of the cone). Once you have the location, pulling back on the R-stick will start the new meter. Once the meter starts filling up you will want to push back up on the R-stick when it gets to the yellow line marker (similar to yellow line on meter in past). Its just not a matter of pushing straight back up however. You will need to move the R-stick slightly towards the location of the corresponding circle (when you chose location). The closer you are to the circle the better chance you’ll hit your spot. The FASTER you move the R-stick up the faster the speed of the pitch.

I think this works really, really well and I’m very excited about it. I think it makes pitching a little harder to hit your spots. Also in regards to pitching when your pitcher tires (less than 35%) the break on your breaking pitches is far less significant. No longer should an online opponent dominate you because the pitcher has wicked breaking pitches and uses them even when they have no energy.

Analog Fielding: Ramone explained to me how they derive at user error by percentages to the left and right of intended throwing base but I won’t be able to reiterate here exactly as I don’t precisely remember. I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) that if you use the R-stick to throw to the intended base (let’s say 1st base for simple sake) and are within 4 percent of the directional base on either side (up or down from 1st) then your throw will be accurate. Of course if said player is terrible then his ratings will have some effect on this so he won’t always be accurate. However if you are a gold glove 3rd baseman throwing to first and you are within the 4 percent you are going to make that throw 100 percent of the time. Here is what happens when using the R-stick to throw. You will know immediately if your throw is going to be accurate or not. Your circle (under the player) will light up GREEN. If it isn’t green you can opt to cancel the throw. It’s like in real life when a player charges the ball on a bunt and he knows that throwing on the run with a speedy runner he’s not going to have much of a chance so he opts to not throw to take away the potential big inning.

Now if your circle is yellow (don’t remember the percentage. Obviously it would be more than 5 percent. Let’s say for argument sake its 15 percent) then there is a much greater chance for an offline throw or a ball that will hop to the first baseman. If your fielder is a gold glover than you have a lesser chance of making an error. I’m sure that goes for both the player throwing it and receiving it but I could be wrong on that.
If your circle is red then there WILL be an error. Plain and simple. Better opt to not throw. This would probably be greater than 15 percent off target from the intended base you were throwing to.

I found myself holding the R-stick to the desired location TOO long therefore cycling the green, yellow, red at times. I guess because I am used to holding the button down for long time the old fielding way. I think you need to preload the throw and let go of the stick otherwise this will happen. I’m not entirely sure.
Other things to note about fielding. I think you’ll be seeing more plays at the plate this year. I think it will now actually matter who you have throwing from the OF or chasing after the ball. Some players felt slower than others for sure. Something that didn’t seem that noticeable to me in the past. There is also a new throwing meter bar after lining up for the catch. Still present is the area that shows up when you are setting up before the catch but afterwards you will now get a 3 bar meter to fill up if needed. As I explained earlier in the infield you don’t want to do this but in the outfield you will (Please correct if wrong).

I also saw two dropped balls in my limited play. One was with a catcher. You know how last year when you got the player on the outer rim of the fly ball circle? He would lunge and still always make the catch. This instance that I saw today the catcher dropped it after getting leather on it! Very nice. Also I was running my LF’er towards home to catch a ball but was not far enough to make a dive (last year would make this catch EVERY time) and an animation kicked in where he lunges but the ball hits the leather and the ball comes out while he smothered it.

Now its safe to say that defense is fun and challenging (at least it was for me). No more taking for granted on casual plays. Be ready for a problem if it should arise.
Another new addition I saw while playing defense was a ball marker when a player hits one to the wall but you don’t know if its going to bounce off the wall or clear the fence. Was playing in Fenway when a ball marker showed that the general area of where the ball was going to hit the Green Monster. Sweet.

You can also decoy your OF throws to a different base to try to get someone to move from a base. Don’t remember this being in previous iterations of the game?

Analog Batting: I save this one for last for a reason. I understand things take practice but even if I was good at it I am not sure I would use it. The idea behind analog batting is simple to understand. Pull back on R-stick before the ball comes out of the pitchers hand. Push up on the R-stick to swing. However you would only push straight up if the ball was in the middle to upper middle of plate. If the ball is on the inside corner or the outside part of the plate you are going to swing TOWARDS the ball. I like this idea as it definitely deviates from the competitor’s analog batting. However the system (engine) gives you low and high. Meaning you won’t be concerned with it. You can’t swing up and then towards the ball if its down in the zone. You also won’t be using the L-stick in this mode. I for one wish that the L-stick was still intact while when analog batting. I’m sure most people would probably agree but maybe it just makes it way too hard to operate both sticks. I’m sure that the SCEA team fought over this one on what to do. But like I was saying its going to be much harder to hit this year because the PCI is how it should be now. Maybe I missed something or maybe I'll change my tune with more time on the game. Who knows.

CO-OP mode: Russell and I played around 8 innings of this mode. This is a GREAT addition imho and its everything I thought It would be. You have a broad set of ways to setup the game. In our game we chose to alternate who the pitcher was (He would pitch inning 1, 3, 5, etc). I was the OF all game and he was the IF but I was the Catcher. There is a color coded chart displayed in the game just before pitch selection on which player was what so you don’t forget your duties. Let’s say you get a base hit when you are up at bat (he is hitter #1, 3, 5, etc). The person who got the hit would then control the runner on 1st. He would be in control of taking leads, stealing, getting back, etc. Very Cool I must say. We didn’t get to finish because a woman wanted to see the ‘Move’ controller in action (which is only HR derby). I didn’t try it for myself. I think I would throw my back out! I put the 3d glasses on when Ramone tried it. I would never have any use for it but its there and it works.

Graphics: Yes, there IS rain. I seen it I do have one small clip of it but don’t know how it turned out. There are no rain delays (next year!). The daylight/night progression is much better now. It will change slightly from inning to inning and won’t get dark till like the 7th inning. There are rosie hues on the clouds when present. Real nice. Textures of the grass and dirt look 100 percent better this year! Player models look indeed better to me but like I said I am not critical of it like the many users on here. The overalys and menu’s are much crisper and prettier to my eye. There are some new stat overlays during the game as well.

Camera Angles: Team specific broadcast camera angles! I know this will make a lot of you happy. You also have the option of moving the camera anywhere you want and saving it. Online gets some options this year for batting view (about 15 presets). You can also move the pitching meter (cone) anywhere on the screen.

Sound: Karros! Well, it was very loud @ CES this year. I didn’t hear much of it so I can’t comment on this.

Other notes: BALKS are in!

Well, that is all I have for now. I won’t be going again today as I only had 2 hours of sleep before going yesterday. THANKS to Ramone for again letting me get some hands on again this year. Sorry I had to leave when you went to lunch but I had to run unfortunately. Well, maybe I would of stayed a little longer if someone else didn’t come along and wanted to see the 3D…lol

[Maynard]

double post

[ryne candy]

bump...added another video not long enough for it's own thread.

[killgod]

Preview sounds nice.

I am concerned about the control setups. In the NHL series you can go old school buttons or the new joystick controls implemented a couple years ago.

While the button based controls limit you with puck control and deking, it actually allows for a bit of cheese with shooting since you don't have to be concerned with flicking the stick up properly, just easily pushing the button. I wouldn't use these controls because it's a major handicap not to have the stick control, but that's not the point here.

Point is, could using different controls provide advantages/disadvantages? Different possible outcomes on contact?

Like fielding for example seems like you'll have a totally different experience between old and new controls, will one have an advantage there?

Wonder how this is going to work, but I tend to hate when games have multiple vastly different control sets available.

[killgod]

Preview sounds nice.

I am concerned about the control setups. In the NHL series you can go old school buttons or the new joystick controls implemented a couple years ago.

While the button based controls limit you with puck control and deking, it actually allows for a bit of cheese with shooting since you don't have to be concerned with flicking the stick up properly, just easily pushing the button. I wouldn't use these controls because it's a major handicap not to have the stick control, but that's not the point here.

Point is, could using different controls provide advantages/disadvantages? Different possible outcomes on contact?

Like fielding for example seems like you'll have a totally different experience between old and new controls, will one have an advantage there?

Wonder how this is going to work, but I tend to hate when games have multiple vastly different control sets available.

[Maynard]

interesting thought. i guess this will depend on how they allow the setups to be online. offline people can do what they want. your point almost makes it seem like the best option online would be to make both players use the same setup in their game...that will piss off WTB something fierce

[killgod]

interesting thought. i guess this will depend on how they allow the setups to be online. offline people can do what they want. your point almost makes it seem like the best option online would be to make both players use the same setup in their game...that will piss off WTB something fierce

Yep, this is going to be a hellacious debate if it's proven to be true. Guess we'll have to wait and see, likely not to be answered until we try it ourselves.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Keep in mind that you can do whatever combination of controls you want (online or offline). Want to do analog pitching but old interface for fielding and batting? You can. Online users will be able to have their own profile of their preferred control scheme as well before entering a game.

Looks like each user can use whatever combination of old/new controls that they want.

I would suspect analog pitching would offer advantages over meter pitching, with more subtleties once you get the hang of it.

It looks to me like analog hitting will offer a HUGE advantage, because it takes swinging high/low out of the game. Just pull the stupid stick back, and swing left, right, or middle. Retarded.

Fielding, hard to say.

But yeah, fuck analog, and hopefully if there are some advantages to certain settings they aren't gambreakers. I have no interest in switching to analog.

[Maynard]

i really dont understand their thinking behind analog control. it all sounds pretty dumb. seeing the pitching...it would work, but really felt like a morphed version of meter pitching. instead of the buttons, they make u use the stick now. the whole problem with buttons is that is gets repetitive. There analog pitching is the same for each pitch making it just as repetitive as buttons.

fielding with buttons is great, but they needed to tweak the meter to make how long you hold the button down feel like it actually mattered.

i never liked analog hitting