VSN Baseball Spring Training Random Thoughts

[Warner2BruceTD]

I feel like batters were walked at a realistic rate in last years game.

But everybody knows how I feel about analog, so I wont repeat my rhetoric.

Analog hitting is going to be mastered and eventually lead to MVP 05 cheeseball. Cat & mouse game between hitter and pitcher is dead.

[Rudi]

I am TERRIBLE at hitting. Wow

[BuccaneerFan]

Leaving work at 1pm today to pick up this game. See you fools online later.

[killgod]

threads? what happens when vsn crashes

I really hope we can force analog controls on or off. It shouldnt be up to the user, it should be a league setting. Id prefer analog pitching/fielding and traditional batting.

I hope it is a league setting myself. I think we should all be playing the game the same way, but we'll let the game settings and Spring Training sort that out.

I feel like batters were walked at a realistic rate in last years game... ...Cat & mouse game between hitter and pitcher is dead.

I agree with those comments. Well, I agree that pitcher placement was right on last year, most people simply swing at too many poor pitches which makes for more K's than BB's, but that's of no fault of the game.

I do fear that the "cat & mouse" game will be lost in analog hitting. In the 09 World Series that's what it revolved around between the two of us, trying to figure out what was coming next. I feel that we couldn't replicate that with analog hitting because you don't have to worry about where the ball is really.

[Virix]

eventually people will master controls analog or not.

I agree, but with the meter we are using controls most of us mastered 4 or 5 years ago.

I feel like batters were walked at a realistic rate in last years game.

But everybody knows how I feel about analog, so I wont repeat my rhetoric.

Analog hitting is going to be mastered and eventually lead to MVP 05 cheeseball. Cat & mouse game between hitter and pitcher is dead.

I feel like you only threw a ball when you wanted to for the most part. I honestly wasnt planning on getting The Show this year just because the meter is so old and worn out to me.

I do fear that the "cat & mouse" game will be lost in analog hitting. In the 09 World Series that's what it revolved around between the two of us, trying to figure out what was coming next. I feel that we couldn't replicate that with analog hitting because you don't have to worry about where the ball is really.

Im still pretty bad at hitting with analog, which is why id prefer button hitting and analog everything else. I read that if the pitch is up and to the left you have to press up and to the left when swinging to make good contact. Is that not true?

[killgod]

Im still pretty bad at hitting with analog, which is why id prefer button hitting and analog everything else. I read that if the pitch is up and to the left you have to press up and to the left when swinging to make good contact. Is that not true?

I would be in the same boat as you here for control choice.

I don't believe pitching can be mastered like it can be with the meter system. The PS3 sticks are too loose to be that precise IMO, where as with the meter system you can hit your spots pretty much every time.

I don't believe that is true frmo what Russell had said. You need to have the right timing, and either push it more to the left or right depending on where the pitch is. The pitch being low or high is irrelevant to an analog batter and the game calculates that itself based upon player rating.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I would be in the same boat as you here for control choice.

I don't believe pitching can be mastered like it can be with the meter system. The PS3 sticks are too loose to be that precise IMO, where as with the meter system you can hit your spots pretty much every time.

I don't believe that is true frmo what Russell had said. You need to have the right timing, and either push it more to the left or right depending on where the pitch is. The pitch being low or high is irrelevant to an analog batter and the game calculates that itself based upon player rating.

Correct.

Its all timing based. I was mashing once I got the timing down, and that was against the cpu who is harder to hit than the humans imo (at least for me, I'm always worse vs the cpu in all af these games). I find that the direction doesn't even matter all that much, and all of this concerns me.

[Townie33]

I do NOT have the game as of yet. I am hoping it is waiting for me when I get home. (or else I will be my son for not picking it up)

Anyway, with analog hitting, it is true that the CPU does adjust up/down for your swing. YOU need to swing in/out using the stick. BUT I personally believe (from the demo anyway) that you had better plate coverage up/down using zone hitting by moving your left stick up/down. Again, that was in the demo.

I really, really like the fact that you can increase the size of the PCI (Plate Coverage Indicator) by pressing the "circle" button pre-pitch. I got into some long counts after two strikes by using the "circle" button. That was fun. On the other hand pressing the "square" for power really dimishes the size of the PCI. I can't say I made any contact using it.

Hopefully later today I will give some comments of this new version!

[Warner2BruceTD]

I do NOT have the game as of yet. I am hoping it is waiting for me when I get home. (or else I will be my son for not picking it up)

Anyway, with analog hitting, it is true that the CPU does adjust up/down for your swing. YOU need to swing in/out using the stick. BUT I personally believe (from the demo anyway) that you had better plate coverage up/down using zone hitting by moving your left stick up/down. Again, that was in the demo.

I really, really like the fact that you can increase the size of the PCI (Plate Coverage Indicator) by pressing the "circle" button pre-pitch. I got into some long counts after two strikes by using the "circle" button. That was fun. On the other hand pressing the "square" for power really dimishes the size of the PCI. I can't say I made any contact using it.

Hopefully later today I will give some comments of this new version!

Good thoughts.

I would assume that the same pci principles apply to button swinging?

[BuccaneerFan]

I'm trying to get used to analog everything and I guess it isn't so bad. I've been using whatever the default "expert" settings are. I think it's all-star difficulty? I find pitching pretty fun with analog. Analog fielding seems pointless. It's no better or worse than button fielding. Analog hitting is still my least favorite aspect. Oddly enough, I seem EARLY on just about every pitch. If I ever wait back on a pitch I can usually make some solid contact. I guess pitch speed on all-star is too slow for my taste.

So what's the deal with online settings? You can just pick and choose whatever you want and so can you opponent? Someone can use zone hitting while the other uses analog? Or does it default to the settings of the person challenging?

So who wants to play a game!? Longo and Manny are waiting...

[Rudi]

Online settings are completely customizable to whatever you want. I'm thinking analog pitching and button/fielding hitting for myself, but don't know yet. I just did a Play Now game [thrilling game, btw]...Lag wasn't a problem. I was using all classic button settings though.

[PP]

I jumped online. Won my first game but the controls were the old button controls. I assume we can change it to our liking but lag wasn't an issue in the game I played. Looking forward to this if online play is clean.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Online settings are completely customizable to whatever you want. I'm thinking analog pitching and button/fielding hitting for myself, but don't know yet. I just did a Play Now game [thrilling game, btw]...Lag wasn't a problem. I was using all classic button settings though.

I jumped online. Won my first game but the controls were the old button controls. I assume we can change it to our liking but lag wasn't an issue in the game I played. Looking forward to this if online play is clean.

How does the interface work for choosing your controls?

Can you see what the opponent is using?

[Rudi]

You choose them in the online settings menu before even getting into a game mode. I was not able to tell what settings my opponent was using. Not sure if I just missed it or what.

[killgod]

Had some lag bad in my game, shit was not good. I want to try again tho, so someone hit me up.


Also, we can't start a league for two weeks, so just kick around until we can start that.