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  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    My Two Dynasty Alignment Options

    With teams swapping conferences like keys at a swinger's party it figures it's time to take this Custom Conference option in NCAA 2012 and do some real good with it. Revert the NCAA back a few decades and see what happens. I've come up with two basic options. 1990 and 1993.


    First, the 1990 inspired alignment.

    Atlantic Coast Conference
    Georgia Tech
    Clemson
    Virginia
    Maryland
    North Carolina
    NC State
    Duke
    Wake Forest

    The Big 8
    Colorado
    Nebraska
    Oklahoma
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Missouri
    Oklahoma State

    The Big 10
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Illinois
    Iowa
    Ohio State
    Minnesota
    Indiana
    Northwestern
    Purdue
    Wisconsin

    MAC
    Toledo
    Central Michigan
    Ball State
    Western Michigan
    Miami(OH)
    Bowling Green
    Eastern Michigan
    Kent State
    Ohio

    PAC-10
    Washington
    USC
    Oregon
    California
    Arizona
    UCLA
    Arizona State
    Washington State
    Oregon State

    SEC
    Florida
    Tennessee
    Ole Miss
    Alabama
    Auburn
    Kentucky
    LSU
    Georgia
    Mississippi State
    Vanderbilt

    Southwest Conference(Replacing the Sun Belt)
    Texas
    Houston
    Texas A&M
    Baylor
    Rice
    TCU
    Texas Tech
    Arkansas
    SMU


    WAC
    BYU
    Colorado State
    San Diego State
    Wyoming
    Hawaii
    Air Force
    Utah
    New Mexico
    UTEP


    Independents
    Notre Dame
    Miami
    Florida State
    Penn State
    Army
    Navy
    Louisiana Tech
    Northern Illinois
    South Carolina
    East Carolina
    West Virginia
    Arkansas State
    Tulsa
    Louisville
    Boise State
    Marshall
    UCONN
    FIU
    Tulane
    Middle Tennessee State
    Syracuse
    South Florida
    Troy
    Central Florida
    Nevada
    Cincinnati
    Southern Mississippi
    Virginia Tech
    Rutgers
    Pittsburgh
    Boston College
    Temple

    The Big West(Replacing the Mountain West)
    San Jose State
    Fresno State
    Utah State
    UNLV
    New Mexico State

    The Big East
    Akron
    Western Kentucky
    UAB
    UNT
    UL-Monroe

    Conference USA
    Memphis
    Florida Atlantic
    UL-Lafayette
    Buffalo
    Idaho




    Since the Custom Conference alignment prevents us from deleting conferences for the Big East and Conference USA, both of which did not exist, I simply used the overall team ratings and plugged in the worst 8 teams ratings wise into the conferences. That allowed me to keep the major teams that were independent as such. I had to put five in each as if only had the minimum of four there were too many teams in the Independents.

    Automatic Bids for the BCS go to:


    Big 8
    Big 10
    Pac-10
    SEC

    That leaves two at large bids in the BCS Bowls.

    Conference Bowl Ties:
    Rose Bowl: PAC10 Champion vs Big 10 Champion
    Orange Bowl: Big 8 Champion
    Sugar Bowl: SEC Champion
    Fiesta Bowl: None


    The 1993 Alignment to follow shortly....
  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #2
    Now the 1993 inspired alignment:

    Atlantic Coast Conference
    Florida State
    Georgia Tech
    Clemson
    Virginia
    Maryland
    North Carolina
    NC State
    Duke
    Wake Forest

    The Big 8
    Colorado
    Nebraska
    Oklahoma
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Missouri
    Oklahoma State

    The Big 10
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Illinois
    Iowa
    Ohio State
    Minnesota
    Indiana
    Northwestern
    Purdue
    Wisconsin
    Penn State


    The Big East
    West Virginia
    Miami
    Boston College
    Virginia Tech
    Syracuse
    Pittsburgh
    Rutgers
    Temple

    The Big West(Replacing the Mountain West)
    Utah State
    UNLV
    Nevada
    UL-Lafayette
    Louisiana Tech
    Arkansas State
    Northern Illinois
    New Mexico State
    San Jose State

    MAC
    Toledo
    Central Michigan
    Ball State
    Western Michigan
    Miami(OH)
    Bowling Green
    Eastern Michigan
    Kent State
    Ohio
    Akron

    PAC-10
    Washington
    USC
    Oregon
    California
    Arizona
    UCLA
    Arizona State
    Washington State
    Oregon State

    SEC
    East:
    Florida
    Tennessee
    Kentucky
    Georgia
    South Carolina
    Vanderbilt
    West
    Auburn
    Alabama
    Arkansas
    LSU
    Ole Miss
    Mississippi State

    Southwest Conference(Replacing the Sun Belt)
    Texas
    Houston
    Texas A&M
    Baylor
    Rice
    TCU
    Texas Tech
    SMU

    WAC
    Fresno State
    Wyoming
    BYU
    Utah
    Colorado State
    New Mexico
    San Diego State
    Hawaii
    Air Force
    UTEP


    Independents
    Notre Dame
    Army
    Navy
    Boise State
    Louisville
    Cincinnati
    Tulane
    Southern Mississippi
    Buffalo
    Marshall
    UCONN
    FIU
    FAU
    Idaho
    UL-Monroe
    Middle Tennessee State
    South Florida
    Troy
    Tulsa
    East Carolina
    Central Florida


    Conference USA
    Memphis
    Western Kentucky
    UAB
    North Texas


    Same idea as before with Conference USA. It didn't exist so I took the four lowest rated Independent teams and slotted them in.


    Automatic Bids for the BCS go to:


    Big 8
    Big 10
    Pac-10
    SEC



    Conference Bowl Ties:
    Rose Bowl: PAC10 Champion vs Big 10 Champion
    Orange Bowl: Big 8 Champion
    Sugar Bowl: SEC Champion
    Fiesta Bowl: None

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    • FirstTimer
      Freeman Error

      • Feb 2009
      • 18729

      #3
      The other thing I was going to toy with is only giving automatic bids to the Pac 10, Big10, Big 8 and SEC just so the tie-in's stay true and leaving the other 4 slots wide open......In fact I will do that....CHAOS!

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      • Sharkweather
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 8906

        #4
        Not a fan of either of these since you are using the Sun Belt as your +1 "BCS" conference. Any particular reason why? If anything I would move the Big 8 out of the Big XII to give the SWC their traditional Cotton Bowl bid. You wouldn't even have to give them a BCS bowl, just let the champion go to the Cotton Bowl if they aren't an at-large.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18729

          #5
          Originally posted by Sharkweather
          Not a fan of either of these since you are using the Sun Belt as your +1 "BCS" conference. Any particular reason why? If anything I would move the Big 8 out of the Big XII to give the SWC their traditional Cotton Bowl bid. You wouldn't even have to give them a BCS bowl, just let the champion go to the Cotton Bowl if they aren't an at-large.
          I just edited. What I did was only give auto BCS bids to the conferences that had bowl tie ins at the time(Big 8, Big 10, PAC10, SEC). Every other spot is now up for grabs.

          Good thought.

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          • Sharkweather
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 8906

            #6
            Well I guess if you can live with Texas, TCU and Texas A&M playing in the New Orleans bowl, GoDaddy.com bowl and Beef 'O' Brady's bowl, then you are all set. That would just ruin it for me though.

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              #7
              Originally posted by Sharkweather
              Well I guess if you can live with Texas, TCU and Texas A&M playing in the New Orleans bowl, GoDaddy.com bowl and Beef 'O' Brady's bowl, then you are all set. That would just ruin it for me though.
              Yeah it sucks we can't mess with the other Bowl tie ins and there is no dynamic conference prestige but we'd have to make it work best we can.....

              I used the Sun Belt as the makeup for the Southwest conference because the Sun Belt covers Texas and Arkansas the way that the old SWC used to.

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              • Youk
                Posts too much
                • Feb 2009
                • 7998

                #8
                Exactly what I was thinking, but then you also lose out on Nebraska, Oklahoma, etc. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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                • Nevermind
                  Pewter
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 976

                  #9
                  I don't know if you will be able to do the 1990 setup because you have 32 Independents and I think the max you can have is 30. I could be wrong though.

                  Edit: I was wrong about that my bad.

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                  • FirstTimer
                    Freeman Error

                    • Feb 2009
                    • 18729

                    #10
                    Still working on tweaking this...

                    What I might do. Create the old SWC in place of the current Big 12(so you have the Cotton Bowl tie in). Create the old Big 8 out of either the Big East or Mountain West(giving that Big 8 the Orange Bowl tie in). That would give each of them some more "major" bowl tie ins. Rather than having a Big East in the 1990 version full of sucky teams soaking up some mid tier bids. Might make more sense to create the Big 8 out of the MWC give them the Orange Bowl tie in as with only 8 teams that newly formed Big 8 won't need the 6 or 7 bowl bids....

                    Fuck EA for not letting us edit every bowl tie in.

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                    • RyanLeaf16
                      #DoSomething
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3211

                      #11
                      The ability to edit conferences is nice, but, not being able to mess with the other bowls does cause some issues. Also, you can't edit the bowl names either, which would be nice (i.e. Champs Sports Bowl was then the Blockbuster Bowl & Outback Bowl was the Hall of Fame Bowl).

                      I would go with the 1993 alignment though - if you are choosing just one of them. If you are hell bent on having the old SWC, then go with 1990.

                      Either way, its your dynasty so do what you like. Interested in seeing what you come up with.
                      Maddon & Friedman: Pissing off the AL East since 2008

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                      • FirstTimer
                        Freeman Error

                        • Feb 2009
                        • 18729

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RyanLeaf16
                        The ability to edit conferences is nice, but, not being able to mess with the other bowls does cause some issues. Also, you can't edit the bowl names either, which would be nice (i.e. Champs Sports Bowl was then the Blockbuster Bowl & Outback Bowl was the Hall of Fame Bowl).

                        I would go with the 1993 alignment though - if you are choosing just one of them. If you are hell bent on having the old SWC, then go with 1990.

                        Either way, its your dynasty so do what you like. Interested in seeing what you come up with.
                        Honestly I picked 1993 as a year because it was my favorite season of Notre Dame football ever. (Fuck the pollsters that gave F$U the NC)...anyways...I'm waiting for the patch and rosters to drop before I do anything so I have time...

                        Northern Illinois being in The Big West made me LOL though.

                        Honestly the SWC existing in either I am fine with. Arkansas being in or out isn't an issue for me. The sticking/tipping point for me is having all those baller Independents in 1990(ND, FSU, Miami, Penn St, WVU, etc) or having them in conferences in 1993......

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