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[BigBucs]

If this shit is gonna be so official then prizes need to be doled out and regular tourneys need to be set up by you leaders. If I have to sit down for an hour and play a game I want something out of the shit. If this isnt gonna happen lets stop this dog and pony show and treat it for what it is.

What the fuck did we get out of our own tracker system? Nothing. Whats the point of acting like these games are more than they are just because EA took our idea and made it "official"? Shit will probably be broke anyway.

Something off topic here but are we getting our own forum? Its going to be a clusterfuck trying to keep everything in one thread, especially when people want to run tournaments and do rankings, etc.

http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107234

[Realist]

I have to agree that ladder, tracker, whatever you want to call them, ranked or unranked are still pickup games imo. There are league games, and then there are pickup games.

Mr bill I understand. I guess I'm different from some people. If I sign up for 220, I'm not going to quit cause I don't like the game. I'm going to have.a good excuse. Mr. Bill can vouch for that. I've disliked madden the last few years like most but have finished every season so for someone to sign up for leagues and shit only to quit in a few months shows where this community is overall. I might not play a lot of trackers, but I try to finish a league if I van help it.Then you have mfers disrespecting each other daily. That's the culture that's been tolerated here but its not how it was in the beginning and its why people left.

And for those who think this happens everywhere, that's false. I can name 2 or 3 other madden communities that play for the love, play year round, and not to just bitch and moan over little stuff.

[Virix]

If this shit is gonna be so official then prizes need to be doled out and regular tourneys need to be set up by you leaders. If I have to sit down for an hour and play a game I want something out of the shit. If this isnt gonna happen lets stop this dog and pony show and treat it for what it is.

What the fuck did we get out of our own tracker system? Nothing. Whats the point of acting like these games are more than they are just because EA took our idea and made it "official"? Shit will probably be broke anyway.



http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/fo...d.php?t=107234

Prizes for what? Number one? When? Weekly? Every day? Day before madden 13? How does this change anything for tournaments? If people wanted to take the top 10 and run a tourney they always could. Not sure what difference the community set up is going to make other than not forcing someone to keep up with the results and update the thread. The biggest problem is that once prizes come into play, people are going to bum hunt.

If we don't want them to be separate from pick up games, that's fine. To me it makes more sense. We could always just play ranked games before with 5-6 min quarters. Why the fuck didn't people use it before? If you only played "vsn room" games, it's the same shit as what people want apparently. Want your leader board? Add the people that you play and sort by friends at the ranking screen. Again, being that sliders can't be used in TGT, it doesn't really matter. There will be polls to decide what the majority wants and that's what we will go with.

[PP]

Prizes for what? Number one? When? Weekly? Every day? Day before madden 13? How does this change anything for tournaments? If people wanted to take the top 10 and run a tourney they always could. Not sure what difference the community set up is going to make other than not forcing someone to keep up with the results and update the thread.

If we don't want them to be separate from pick up games, that's fine. To me it makes more sense. We could always just play ranked games before with 5-6 min quarters. Why the fuck didn't people use it before? If you only played "vsn room" games, it's the same shit as what people want apparently. Want your leader board? Add the people that you play and sort by friends at the ranking screen. Again, being that sliders can't be used in TGT, it doesn't really matter. There will be polls to decide what the majority wants and that's what we will go with.

The issue used to be that to play All Madden we would have to play unranked. and some people preferred 6 min qtrs. Because of unranked people wanted to track their record and then the tracker came about for that which turned into a mini leaderboard.

[BigBucs]

Prizes for what? Number one? When? Weekly? Every day? Day before madden 13? How does this change anything for tournaments? If people wanted to take the top 10 and run a tourney they always could. Not sure what difference the community set up is going to make other than not forcing someone to keep up with the results and update the thread.

If we don't want them to be separate from pick up games, that's fine. To me it makes more sense. We could always just play ranked games before with 5-6 min quarters. Why the fuck didn't people use it before? If you only played "vsn room" games, it's the same shit as what people want apparently. Want your leader board? Add the people that you play and sort by friends at the ranking screen. Again, being that sliders can't be used in TGT, it doesn't really matter. There will be polls to decide what the majority wants and that's what we will go with.

Thats what I have been getting at. Why are we trying to glorify these pickup games, we have been running since I can remember, just because we now dont have to do the work. This community shit is exactly what we have been dong on our own, tracking pick up games.

http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61068

I didnt get shit for that. And I dont expect anything from this but Im saying if you all wanna glorify this shit and play long ass hour long games then make it worth out while. Im not expecting anything, Isimply brought up the prize shit to make a point.

As for "why have we not always used it before" I dont understand. We didnt have the option. It was all our work. Now that we have the option of counting these pick up games we will with no work to be done.

[Virix]

The issue used to be that to play All Madden we would have to play unranked. and some people preferred 6 min qtrs. Because of unranked people wanted to track their record and then the tracker came about for that which turned into a mini leaderboard.

Not many people like playing all madden. That was an issue IMO. Some mfers playing on different settings than others...but on the same leader board. Those that wanted to play all madden ranked games could. I know one year hardcore was a pay service, but it wasn't always that way.

Thats what I have been getting at. Why are we trying to glorify these pickup games, we have been running since I can remember, just because we now dont have to do the work. This community shit is exactly what we have been dong on our own, tracking pick up games.

http://www.virtualsportsdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61068

I didnt get shit for that. And I dont expect anything from this but Im saying if you all wanna glorify this shit and play long ass hour long games then make it worth out while. Im not expecting anything, Isimply brought up the prize shit to make a point.

As for "why have we not always used it before" I dont understand. We didnt have the option. It was all our work. Now that we have the option of counting these pick up games we will with no work to be done.

People have always played games other than tracker games because they wanted to play their own way. Or worse yet they would play tracker games on different settings and still count it. That is no different than it would be now, other than being forced into certain settings for the game to count. People were playing fucking tracker games on pro last year, and counting them in the same leaderboard as people playing AM. If what we want is just default ranked settings ( which seems to be AP 5-6 min quarters), we always had that option. As long as you only played vsn room games, your record would be correct.

Btw, I like acc clock. You play 8 mins or so with 15 sec acc clock on it stops people from getting to the LOS with 30 seconds left and making 5 hot routes every play. Same amount of time to play a game, same amount of plays, not magic snapping the ball every 7 seconds of play time.

[PP]

8 mins acell clock seems pretty solid. I am sure Copter has experience. I would like the games to take45-1hr no more no less really.

[mcstl25]

BB, your arguments don't make sense. A 6 minute game without accelerated clock takes just as long as a 8 minute game with accelerated clock. And back in the old days, accelerated clock wasn't even an option, so we obviously didn't use it. It's far more realistic and sim to play with accelerated clock for reasons already mentioned above.

[BigBucs]

I see now, you simply think that tracker games and pick up games are different things. They arent. Tracker games dont count for shit in the grand scheme of things. Thats the definition of a pick up game. A hour + long league game is played to work towards the obvious. These tracker/community games are just pick up games that we can keep track of. Unless there is some incentive for winning other than bragging rights they are pick up games. I dont see whats hard to comprehend.

People playing tracker games with pro settings was just people being dumb asses and we didnt have a sure fire way to regulate that. Now we do but its still the same shit.

The whole "get to the line and make 20 hott routes is stopped with acc clock" argument is bullshit. It still can be done by anyone but Humble. That mfer spends an hour picking a play. People dont even know all the adjustments I make presnap regardless of acc clock of not. Only thing it can hinder is defensive hot routes to a certain extent but that doesnt matter because thats dependent on the offense rushing to the line, acc clock or not.

[Virix]

I see now, you simply think that tracker games and pick up games are different things. They arent. Tracker games dont count for shit in the grand scheme of things. Thats the definition of a pick up game. A hour + long league game is played to work towards the obvious. These tracker/community games are just pick up games that we can keep track of. Unless there is some incentive for winning other than bragging rights they are pick up games. I dont see whats hard to comprehend.

People playing tracker games with pro settings was just people being dumb asses and we didnt have a sure fire way to regulate that. Now we do but its still the same shit.

The whole "get to the line and make 20 hott routes is stopped with acc clock" argument is bullshit. It still can be done by anyone but Humble. That mfer spends an hour picking a play. People dont even know all the adjustments I make presnap regardless of acc clock of not. Only thing it can hinder is defensive hot routes to a certain extent but that doesnt matter because thats dependent on the offense rushing to the line, acc clock or not.

Well maybe that's an argument for a 20 second acc clock, not getting rid of it all together...

[BigBucs]

Well maybe that's an argument for a 20 second acc clock, not getting rid of it all together...

Wont matter. We bitch about every change EA makes and eventually our muscle memory adjust, mines at least, and we deal. Wont be a hindrance for me.

much?

[Virix]

Wont matter. We bitch about every change EA makes and eventually our muscle memory adjust, mines at least, and we deal. Wont be a hindrance for me.

much?

Of course it would matter. Muscle memory or not, less time will eventually matter. Letting faggots have 30 seconds to make all the adjustments they found on YouTube is stupid. Being able to line up and kick a fg with 30 seconds left on the playclock is some of the dumbest shit in this game.

much?

[killgod]

Hopefully they removed the dumb fucking gameflow option where you can warp your FG unit on in ONE second.

I still want to kick Izzy in the nuts for beating me with that shit.

[BigBucs]

Keep telling yourself that. Im not even speaking on FG kicking. That obviously has something to do with clock management fool. Your initial argument was offensive hot routes. It wont make a difference.

And now we are being overly critical of each others game? There is only a handful of people who look to abuse shit. We have played each other several times and every game has been legit so get that weak ass argument outta here.

I remember bitching about acc clock when it was introduced in the TGT. After a handful of games it didnt matter. My only gripe is long ass games.

Using acc clock to hinder peoples adjustments is stupid as fuck in a sim community. If I have to use it for that sole purpose than Im either a fucking bum or playing with the wrong people to begin with.

All that shit said Im done with the argument. Whatever we go with wont matter but long asshour long pick up games if for the fucking birds.

[Virix]

Keep telling yourself that. Im not even speaking on FG kicking. That obviously has something to do with clock management fool. Your initial argument was offensive hot routes. It wont make a difference.

And now we are being overly critical of each others game? There is only a handful of people who look to abuse shit. We have played each other several times and every game has been legit so get that weak ass argument outta here.

I remember bitching about acc clock when it was introduced in the TGT. After a handful of games it didnt matter. My only gripe is long ass games.

Using acc clock to hinder peoples adjustments is stupid as fuck in a sim community. If I have to use it for that sole purpose than Im either a fucking bum or playing with the wrong people to begin with.

All that shit said Im done with the argument. Whatever we go with wont matter but long asshour long pick up games if for the fucking birds.

Well it's a good thing they won't be an hour long. Anyone with even a little comprehension would know that.