Lan's Homegrown Rosters Progress Thread

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Taking Pete's advice and making a separate thread, as not to clutter up the main Show thread.

For those of you that haven't been paying attention, it's an idea that was inspired by a stat I saw the other night on Quick Pitch saying how the Mets entire lineup was homegrown, which is the first time that's happened in 41 years. I thought to myself, hmmm what would teams look like if I put all the major league players back on the team that they originally signed for?

And, so that's what I've set off to do. I'll be uploading this to the roster vault upon completion for everyone that's interested to use it. And I'll keep the progress updated here. Questions and the like can be directed to me here as well.

Roster wise, the goal is for full 25 man rosters only. I try to leave the top prospects on their prospects, and only swap random bummy minor leaguers with no potential in order to get players on the right team. Unfortunately on The Show, there's no way to just add and drop players. You actually have to swap to do any kind of player movement, so I'm forced to move around players from team to team. Minor inconvenience, but given that the goal of the roster project is to get guys on their original team, it means little to me if Joe Schmoe career minor leaguer is on the right team nor not.

Teams Completed (updated as of 5/1 3:45 EST)

Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
New York Yankees
Tampa Bay Rays
Toronto Blue Jays
Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Kansas City Royals
Minnesota Twins
Los Angeles Angels
Oakland Athletics
Seattle Mariners

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Just realized we can't edit our own threads apparently, so the list won't be updated as I go.

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Orioles

Pitching Staff

1) Erik Bedard
2) Jake Arrieta
3) Zach Britton
4) Brad Bergesen
5) Brian Matusz
LRP) Garrett Olson
MRP) Koji Uehara
MRP) Tsuyoshi Wada
MRP) D.J. Carrasco
SU) David Hernandez
SU) Arthur Rhodes
CP) Jim Johnson

Lineup

2B) Brian Roberts
LF) Nolan Reimold
RF) Nick Markakis
DH) Jayson Werth
C) Matt Wieters
CF) Darnell McDonald
1B) Brandon Snyder
3B) Jerry Hairston Jr.
SS) Mike Fontenot

Bench: Ryan Adams, Adam Loewen, Eli Whiteside, Willie Harris

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Red Sox

Definitely got worse offensively. Pitching I think pretty much stayed static. Masterson isn't much different than Beckett at this point, and Papelbon gets to come back so, idk.

Pitching Staff

1) Jon Lester
2) Justin Masterson
3) Carl Pavano
4) Clay Buchholz
5) Daisuke Matsuzaka
LRP) Felix Doubront
MRP) Michael Bowden
MRP) Nick Hagadone
MRP) Junichi Tazawa
SU) Daniel Bard
SU) Hideki Okajima
CP) Jonathan Papelbon

Lineup

CF) Jacoby Ellsbury
2B) Dustin Pedroia
RF) Josh Reddick
1B) Kevin Youkilis
LF) David Murphy
DH) Ryan Lavarnway
3B) Jed Lowrie
C) Kelly Shoppach
SS) Adam Everett

Bench: Freddy Sanchez, Tim Federowicz, Brandon Moss, Lars Anderson

EDIT (5/1) - Added Carl Pavano to the rotation. Missed originally. Weiland to AAA. Doubront to LRP.

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Yankees

Yanks lineup took a huge hit with Swisher, A-Rod, Tex, Granderson, and Martin all departing, and being replaced by Shelley Duncan, Hideki Matsui, Jesus Montero, Eduardo Nunez, Nick Johnson, and Austin Jackson. Yikes. Rotation is a bit weakened as well with the departure of C.C. and Kuroda. Kennedy and Karstens return. Bullpen improves. Soriano's gone, but Clippard, Coke, and Choate are solid additions.

Rotation

1) Ian Kennedy
2) Andy Pettitte
3) Ivan Nova
4) Phil Hughes
5) Jeff Karstens
LRP) Phil Coke
MRP) Tyler Clippard
MRP) John Axford
MRP) Mark Melancon
SU) David Robertson
SU) Randy Choate
CP) Mariano Rivera

Lineup

CF) Austin Jackson
SS) Derek Jeter
2B) Robinson Cano
C) Jesus Montero
DH) Hideki Matsui
RF) Shelley Duncan
1B) Nick Johnson
3B) Eduardo Nunez
LF) Brett Gardner

Bench: Ramiro Pena, Alfonso Soriano, Francisco Cervelli, Juan Miranda

edit: Stumbled across Juan Miranda on the Rays roster. Forgot him because he was signed and not drafted. Doesn't change the lineup much, just makes him a bench player instead of Colin Curtis.

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Rays

Rays were an interesting case. I wasn't expecting to add a lot as when I really thought about it, they've not lost very many big name players. The additions of Crawford, Hamilton, and Young have certainly improved the offense. They still don't have any middle infielders, however, and now only Aubrey Huff at 1st. Bullpen is a mess as well.

Pitching Staff

1) David Price
2) James Shields
3) Matt Moore
4) Jeremy Hellickson
5) Jason Hammel
LRP) Andy Sonnanstine
LRP) Alex Cobb
MRP) Jeff Niemann
MRP) Chad Guadin
MRP) Wade Davis
SU) Jake McGee
CP) Dan Wheeler

Lineups

LF) Carl Crawford
CF) B.J. Upton
RF) Josh Hamilton
3B) Evan Longoria
1B) Aubrey Huff
DH) Delmon Young
C) John Jaso
2B) Elliot Johnson
SS) Reid Brignac

Bench: Stephen Vogt, Desmond Jennings, Jonny Gomes, Jorge Cantu

edit: Found Cantu in the Angels system. Since he can backup 3/4 of the IF positions he's been called up and Matt Diaz been demoted to AAA.

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Blue Jays

Toronto's the early winners in this one. The return of Marcum, Halladay, and Carpenter to a rotation already including Ricky Romero and Henderson Alvarez gives them EASILY the best rotation in the league. I really can't think of another team that will have a better staff. There's depth there as well with a bunch of 4-5 starters in AAA. Bullpen is decent as well.

Lineup doesn't change a whole lot. Bunch of old familiar faces return in Rios, Wells, O-Dog, Aaron Hill. Biggest return is Michael Young, who while an original draft pick by the Jays, never made it past AA in their system before being traded to Texas. Toronto didn't do well there. (he was traded for Esteban Loaiza).

Pitching Staff

1) Roy Halladay
2) Ricky Romero
3) Chris Carpenter
4) Shaun Marcum
5) Henderson Alvarez
LRP) Luis Perez
MRP) Marc Rzepczynski
MRP) Casey Janssen
MRP) Tim Collins
SU) Alfredo Aceves
SU) Brandon Lyon
CP) Brandon League

Lineup

2B) Orlando Hudson
LF) Eric Thames
SS) Michael Young
1B) Adam Lind
CF) Vernon Wells
RF) Alex Rios
3B) Ryan Roberts
DH) Aaron Hill
C) J.P. Arencibia

Bench: Travis Snider, Reed Johnson, Travis D'Arnaud, Chris Woodward

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White Sox

Surprisingly, they aren't really as bad as I was expecting. Don't get me wrong, they're still horrible, but they have gained a respectable rotation. Lineup...not so much. I think it's marginally better than the crap they had originally, but still not really going to strike fear into anyone.

Pitching Staff

1) Mark Buehrle
2) Daniel Hudson
3) Gio Gonzalez
4) Brandon McCarthy
5) Chris Sale
LRP) Clayton Richard
MRP) Adam Russell
MRP) Addison Reed
MRP) Fautino de los Santos
SU) Matt Guerrier
SU) Boone Logan
CL) Jon Rauch

Lineup

CF) Chris Young
RF) Ryan Sweeney
LF) Mike Morse
1B) Brandon Allen
DH) Dayan Viciedo
SS) Alexei Ramirez
2B) Gordon Beckham
C) Chris Stewart
3B) Brent Morel

Bench: Chris Carter, Eduardo Escobar, Chris Getz, Gustavo Molina

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Indians

Another team that pretty much treads water here. Some big names come back in Thome, Manny, Martinez, and Peralta to the offense, but departed are Carlos Santana, Travis Hafner, Cabrera, etc. Feels like a lateral move, except to a class of older players. And at this point in their careers the big name players are hardly big name anymore. Plus Thome has to play 1st base since V-Mart has to catch, unless you want Chris Gimenez to be your starting catcher on a major league ballclub. Pitching's still pretty bad, even with Sabathia back in the picture. Bullpen is atrocious.

Pitching Staff

1) C.C. Sabathia
2) Bartolo Colon
3) Jeremy Guthrie
4) Josh Tomlin
5) Fausto Carmona
LRP) David Huff
MRP) Jensen Lewis
MRP) Frank Herrmann
MRP) Aaron Laffey
SU) Tony Sipp
SU) Rafael Perez
CP) Vinnie Pestano

Lineup

CF) Trevor Crowe
2B) Jason Kipnis
C) Victor Martinez
DH) Manny Ramirez
1B) Jim Thome
SS) Jhonny Peralta
LF) Luke Scott
RF) Ben Francisco
3B) Kevin Kouzmanoff

Bench: Chris Gimenez, Maicer Izturis, Russell Branyan, Marco Scutaro

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Missed a Yankee. John Axford was signed as an amateur free agent. Noted and adjusted. McCutchen moved down to AAA.

Yankees bullpen is so stacked. They'll need it with the sad excuse for an offense they have out there though.

edit: Make that another one that I missed. Soriano is a Yankee as well. Don't know where I want to put him yet in the lineup. I'll leave him on the bench for now. You could probably DH him over Matsui, or I guess stick Gardner in right and Soriano in left.

That's gonna happen a lot. Guys that weren't drafted don't show up on the list on B-R that I'm using to look up, since it's a draft list. Amateur free agent signings, especially when the players are on teams I haven't gotten to yet, I'm gonna have to add as I spot them.

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Tigers

Best way to describe this team is..

Pitching Staff

1) Justin Verlander
2) Rick Porcello
3) Jacob Turner
4) Drew Smyly
5) Adam Wilk
LRP) Andrew Miller
MRP) Burke Badenhop
MRP) Jesse Carlson
MRP) Brayan Villarreal
SU) Jason Frasor
SU) Fernando Rodney
CP) Francisco Cordero

Lineup

RF) Cameron Maybin
CF) Curtis Granderson
DH) Brennan Boesch/LF Cody Ross vs. LHP
C) Alex Avila
LF) Matt Joyce/2B Ryan Raburn vs. LHP
2B) Ryan Raburn/SS Ramon Santiago vs. LHP
1B) Don Kelly/DH Casper Wells vs. LHP
SS) Ramon Santiago/1B Don Kelly vs. LHP
3B) Jack Hannahan/3B Danny Worth vs. LHP

Bench: Danny Worth, Casper Wells, Brandon Inge, Cody Ross

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Missed RP - Tim Collins being Blue Jays property. Moved him over. Sent Carreno down to AAA and put Collins in their bullpen.

EDIT (5/1) - Added Carl Pavano to the Red Sox rotation, missed him originally as well. Weiland to AAA.

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Royals

Didn't gain a whole lot as the core of their team already is homegrown. Carlos Beltran and David DeJesus are the most notable bats returning. Zack Greinke is a strong addition to the rotation as well. The lineup and bullpen are fairly strong, but the starting pitching, as usual for the Royals, is a big disappointment.

Pitching Staff

1) Zack Greinke
2) Danny Duffy
3) Luke Hochevar
4) Everett Teaford
5) Mike Montgomery
LRP) J.P. Howell
MRP) Greg Holland
MRP) Tim Byrdak
MRP) Louis Coleman
SU) Aaron Crow
SU) Jeremy Affeldt
CP) Mike MacDougal

Lineup

RF) David DeJesus
SS) Mike Aviles
CF) Carlos Beltran
LF) Alex Gordon
DH) Billy Butler
1B) Eric Hosmer
C) Salvador Perez
3B) Mike Moustakas
2B) Mark Ellis

Bench: Mitch Maier, Johnny Damon, Donnie Murphy, Matt Treanor

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Twins

Twins roster is a pretty familiar bunch. The only position player that hasn't played for the Twins in recent years is A.J. Pierzynski, and Torii Hunter. Everyone else was either there already, or just left this off-season. The lineup was a bit tricky to make in order to get all the best bats in the lineup. Cuddyer winds up stuck at 2nd base, a bit out of position for him, but a position he's played sporadically throughout this career. You could probably start Luke Hughes there if you really care that much. Mauer winds up DHing, with Pierzynski at catcher. Again, you could probably swap that, or if you really want you can move Mauer to 1st and DH Morneau if you want to go the health angle of it all.

Pitching-wise, I was a little bit surprised in that I forgot/wasn't aware that Johan Santana was originally an amateur signing by the Astros, so the rotation isn't as strong as I was expecting. Garza joins, Liriano departs. Slowey's back in the fold as well. The pen sees the return of J.C. Romero, Jessie Crain, LaTroy Hawkins, Grant Balfour and Jose Mijares.

Pitching Staff

1) Matt Garza
2) Scott Baker
3) Nick Blackburn
4) Kevin Slowey
5) Liam Hendriks
LRP) Brian Duensing
MRP) Jose Mijares
MRP) Evan Meek
MRP) LaTroy Hawkins
SU) Jesse Crain
SU) Glen Perkins
CP) Grant Balfour

Lineup

LF) Denard Span
DH) Joe Mauer
2B) Michael Cuddyer
1B) Justin Morneau
CF) Torii Hunter
RF) Jason Kubel
3B) Danny Valencia
C) A.J. Pierzynski
SS) Trevor Plouffe

Bench: Luke Hughes, Chris Parmelee, Tsuyoshi Nishioka, Ben Revere

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Angels

Angels lose a big chunk of their starting pitching: Haren and Wilson both gone. In return they get Lackey, Chatwood, and Saunders. Not exactly the best trade-off in the world. Napoli and Kotchman return to replace Wells/Abreu/Hunter. Lineup, like the Twins, is gonna be a bit patchwork.

Pitching Staff

1) Jered Weaver
2) Ervin Santana
3) John Lackey
4) Joe Saunders
5) Tyler Chatwood
LRP) Alex Torres
MRP) Darren O'Day
MRP) Bobby Cassevah
MRP) Rich Thompson
SU) Francisco Rodriguez
SU) Bobby Jenks
CL) Jordan Walden

Lineup

SS) Erick Aybar
2B) Howie Kendrick
RF) Kendrys Morales
DH) Mark Trumbo
1B) Casey Kotchman
C) Mike Napoli
3B) Alberto Callaspo
LF) Mike Trout
CF) Peter Bourjos

Bench: Reggie Willits, Alexi Casilla, Sean Rodriguez, Jeff Mathis