If the Wildcat formation is added in Madden 10..

[Hasselbeck]

While we are on the topic of the Wildcat.. I always wondered why the Titans didn't throw Vince Young out there for a special package with some variations of this offense. Having him and Chris Johnson back there could be a scary set for a few plays.

[Realist]

if it is in a playbook and you can use any playbook you want, what does it matter what team has it?

Maybe someone doesn't want to use miami's playbook (if that's the only one that has it) just for the wildcat formation. Every playbook doesn't have the same formations/plays

[ZAN]

I don't have to worry about any of that. It's called sim leagues. You, from what you've openly admitted play more of a "freestyle/cheese" kind of Madden. This should be something you're dying to have in the game.

Quit being a dick, houtz. Calling it cheese is dumb....

You ever wonder why EA doesn't put on "sim" tournaments, too many petty little arguments like the ones I've been part of the past couple days....

And no, I'm not dying to have a "flavor of the year" formation dominate next years game....

I'll put up with whatever's thrown at me though, if I can't defend it, that's my fault. Not my opponent's like the consensus seems to be...

[ZAN]

Who's being a dick? What I gathered in the last few days is that you've openly admitted your game consists of rocket catches and bs like that.

Why would you be dying to have the wildcat in the game? I'm a Fins fan so of course I want to use my team as true to life as possible. The wildcat was a huge part of 2008.

You are. I never called my game BS. I never openly admitted to anything. You insinuate that I acknowledge that freestyle play is worse than sim. I user catch. Okay? Is that okay with you? Play more coverage. I blitz heavily. Okay? Is that okay with you? Get the ball out faster. Nothing I do is not capable of being countered. If you are having trouble stopping it, I'm going to keep going to it....

The rocket catch takes advantage of the AI just as much as an out route does versus man coverage. That is a fact, and is as undebatable as it gets (as for as Madden '09 goes).

To each their own. But the only BS is when the two play styles collide and one play style (sim or freestyle) decides to make excuses as to why they lost...

*Note that I never called the sim community BS. I simply call the attitudes of a lot of the sim players BS.

As for you sim guys, you can have your cake, but you better eat it too. Because you are bound to get a heavy dosage of the Wildcat if EA screws up the AI on it.

[Aso]

They have been working on AI a lot lately and having the most 'sim' game as possible. I am confident that if the Wildcat is in Madden NFL 10, that it will work correctly.

[Houston]

As for you sim guys, you can have your cake, but you better eat it too. Because you are bound to get a heavy dosage of the Wildcat if EA screws up the AI on it.

Not necessarily because they'll just ban it from the league.

That's the thing about SIM players, majority of them just join leagues so they don't have to worry about being "cheesed".

[Aso]

Well for starters procedural awareness. Then the man coverage AI they have worked on. Almost everything they have told us they had something involving the AI. They also have said time and time again they are trying to make it as sim a game as possible. Hell in their mission statement they said everything you see on sunday, you'll see it in madden. That is their goal.

[Aso]

The Procedural Awareness is apart of the AI. Then they even said they improved the man coverage AI. But mainly i think the Procedural Awareness will take care of a lot. They have worked on gameplay, with layered blending and a lot of the interaction stuff. If you look at a lot of what they've done it is trying to make everything work properly.

[Archer]

I dont understand even with these videos where this surge of faith comes from.

Madden have let me down 1 too many times for me to have any faith in what they put out.

That being said il buy it of course:-)

[Aso]

Madden 09 was the start of Ian Cummings and from 08 to 09 he did a good job. He took out a countless number of glitches and when there was a glitch in 09 he took it out as soon as possible. Now that he has been the lead designer of 10 since the start he'll be able to do what he did last year making the game as least glitchy as possible and now he's taking it a step further by not only taking out glitches but actually making the game more sim. NFL Head Coach 09 was a great game and now the designers of that game are working on Madden 10 too. David Ortiz is out and a whole bunch of new designers are in and you can't say they aren't doing a great job. They started releasing information 4 months earlier than they did last year. Last year the first update was i think at the end of April. Have some optimism.

[Archer]

Madden 09 was the start of Ian Cummings and from 08 to 09 he did a good job. He took out a countless number of glitches and when there was a glitch in 09 he took it out as soon as possible. Now that he has been the lead designer of 10 since the start he'll be able to do what he did last year making the game as least glitchy as possible and now he's taking it a step further by not only taking out glitches but actually making the game more sim. NFL Head Coach 09 was a great game and now the designers of that game are working on Madden 10 too. David Ortiz is out and a whole bunch of new designers are in and you can't say they aren't doing a great job. They started releasing information 4 months earlier than they did last year. Last year the first update was i think at the end of April. Have some optimism.

WHAT!!!! theres still glitches in the game. Last time i checked the qb walk is still in there. There is still the injury glitch bug and more. 09 improving from 08 was like saying 2 cents is better than one. Its so little that it almost doesnt matter. If thats the amount of improvement after every madden game then damn , i guess we waiting till madden 2098 till we see a actual good version.

I do love the announcments earlier tho , i just dont have a lot of faith as to how they will work till i see it before me.

[Houston]

I dont understand even with these videos where this surge of faith comes from.

That's what I've been saying.

I remember seeing videos of the "foot planting" technique. How you could see the difference between a linemen running and a RB. But yet linemen are able to RC.......

I remember the videos of how much better then O-linemen in 09 would be then the ones in 08. Yet I can place 3 D-linemen in coverage, take one, loop him around 5 O-linemen and get to the QB for an easy sack.

[Aso]

The Qb walk is still in there because they no longer care about 09. They are focusing on 10. Why take a glitch out of a game that will soon become old news and spend less time on the next game. Not sure what the injury glitch bug is.

In madden 08 there was the 3 man rush glitch, Spectacular catch glitch, Encroachment, also the glitch where you can get out of a game without win or loss (don't remember the name). Then of course the WR Double pass and the HB Pass glitches.

In Madden 09 their was WR Direct snap glitch and the glitch where every receiver would become wide open. Both of those were fixed really fast. I don't really remember much of any other glitches but yea they got some of those put out quick.


Also in last year's game there was about as much new improvements and inhancements as there already is in this game. There is still gonna be more improvements and features in Madden NFL 10. In Madden 09 their big features were Madden Moments and The Virtual Trainer thing. Both were terrible.

[Archer]

The Qb walk is still in there because they no longer care about 09. They are focusing on 10. Why take a glitch out of a game that will soon become old news and spend less time on the next game. Not sure what the injury glitch bug is.

In madden 08 there was the 3 man rush glitch, Spectacular catch glitch, Encroachment, also the glitch where you can get out of a game without win or loss (don't remember the name). Then of course the WR Double pass and the HB Pass glitches.

In Madden 09 their was WR Direct snap glitch and the glitch where every receiver would become wide open. Both of those were fixed really fast. I don't really remember much of any other glitches but yea they got some of those put out quick.

Last year there was "fall forward on the stick" were your hb fell 9yards forward on every tackle . No lt button (360) that suddenly made most qbs throws redicolously accurate and easy to rocket. Rocket curls at a tourney level is WORSE then the 08 spec catch . 4 curls when adding rockets is almost an unstoppble offense . Last year Man coverage was usuable (outs killed it tho but at least you could cover crosses) . Screens have become out of this world and Deep posts are a td every play unless you user a safety or get a sack.


Also in last year's game there was about as much new improvements and inhancements as there already is in this game. There is still gonna be more improvements and features in Madden NFL 10. In Madden 09 their big features were Madden Moments and The Virtual Trainer thing. Both were terrible.

Madden 08 blowed so bad. Saying there was improvements means nothing . It was near on impossible for 09 to suck less than 08. This year there is still the Fact of Fiction glitch (wrs all open) , Qb Walk glitch , DC glitch (get out without a loss) , Injury bug glitch (tottaly randome nobodys fault) , also certain times randomly after a touchback the game spots the ball on ur 30 instead of their 20.

So we have to sit through 5months (those of us who would like to continue playing) of this because there concentrating on their next in the long list of fuck ups? If i rated madden 08 a 1/10 , id rate 09 .... 3-4/10.... Im only playing it because I LOVE football and there is no competition out there availble to me. I like competition so i stay in leagues so im forced to put up with the screwed up crap ea gives me.

This year the fall forward on the stick animations by running backs gets u 3-5 yards every time almost. Zone d is unreal , man is un-usebale , i mean man sucked v outs on 08 but at least a god damn cross was coverable. Posts are tds every time unless you user a safety or get a sack. Playmakers are 90000000000 times easier. Oh and then theres screens , the most effective thing known to life. Screens like FL screen where u cant run man because they have a post and out on the other side so its a completion either way.

[Aso]

Not saying Madden 09 was very good i was just saying they got a lot of the glitches out.