Ads up, games down: The ugly, profitable details about Xbox Live advertising

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  • Twigg4075
    Kindergarten Cop
    • Feb 2009
    • 20056

    #61
    You do realize that graph you link shows that they have made PROFITS the past five years?

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    • killgod
      OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
      • Oct 2008
      • 4714

      #62
      Originally posted by Twigg4075
      You do realize that graph you link shows that they have made PROFITS the past five years?



      I lost $1,000,000 last year.

      But I made $100 this year.

      A winner is me.




      For christ's sake look at the fucking total.

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      • Twigg4075
        Kindergarten Cop
        • Feb 2009
        • 20056

        #63
        Originally posted by killgod


        And again, why is the fucking developers of these games let off the hook by you? They aren't responsible to sell their own shit? Please. Market your shit through the regular gaming channels and people will get it. Done.
        Do you know how MS publishing deals work? MS demands that they have control over EVERYTHING. These developers aren't allowed to advertise through other outlets at least not without MS's permission.

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        • Twigg4075
          Kindergarten Cop
          • Feb 2009
          • 20056

          #64
          Originally posted by killgod



          I lost $1,000,000 last year.

          But I made $100 this year.

          A winner is me.




          For christ's sake look at the fucking total.
          I saw the fucking total. But are we not talking about the ads they introduced in the past five years or so?

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          • killgod
            OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
            • Oct 2008
            • 4714

            #65
            Originally posted by Twigg4075
            Do you know how MS publishing deals work? MS demands that they have control over EVERYTHING. These developers aren't allowed to advertise through other outlets.
            So they can't have:

            Their own website
            Previews on gaming sites
            Interviews on gaming sites
            Reviews on gaming sites
            Forums
            Viral Marketing
            Etc

            I'd be willing to wager I can find XBLA titles who do most if not all of the above.

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            • killgod
              OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
              • Oct 2008
              • 4714

              #66
              Originally posted by Twigg4075
              I saw the fucking total. But are we not talking about the ads they introduced in the past five years or so?
              Ads, to generate revenue, to offset those 3 Billion in losses, over the 10 years....

              Ads, to generate revenue, to appease the demands of being a publicly traded company...


              No, haven't gone over this yet.





              This just in, XBL is now FREE. Microsoft, who lost billions in the first few years of this console generation, has decided to cut revenue now that they have turned in some profitable years that don't even dent the losses...


              Logical thoughts are logical.

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              • Twigg4075
                Kindergarten Cop
                • Feb 2009
                • 20056

                #67
                Originally posted by killgod
                So they can't have:

                Their own website
                Previews on gaming sites
                Interviews on gaming sites
                Reviews on gaming sites
                Forums
                Viral Marketing
                Etc

                I'd be willing to wager I can find XBLA titles who do most if not all of the above.
                Yeah, but the only people that see that shit are serious game nerds like you and I, not Average Joe Xbox. My wife is a pretty big gamer and she doesn't visit any of those sites. None of my friends or family members either.

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                • killgod
                  OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 4714

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Twigg4075
                  Yeah, but the only people that see that shit are serious game nerds like you and I, not Average Joe Xbox. My wife is a pretty big gamer and she doesn't visit any of those sites. None of my friends or family members either.
                  That's your supporting evidence to determine that only super nerds visit gaming sites.

                  Even though sites like IGN do 20 Million unique views a month...

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                  • Twigg4075
                    Kindergarten Cop
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 20056

                    #69
                    How exactly does Steam do it then without charging a subscription?

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                    • killgod
                      OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 4714

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Twigg4075
                      How exactly does Steam do it then without charging a subscription?
                      Valve is a privately owned company. They have to please no one but their own desires.

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                      • Ravin
                        Dishing the Gino's
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 6994

                        #71
                        When ever I have a bad day, I can always just think "it could be worse...I could be mad about ads on xbox for the last five years."

                        All you need to know when thinking of the NHL vs Madden series is the two people involved in making the games.

                        "rammer" and "cummings"

                        The NHL series is a giver, Madden takes the load.

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                        • Garrett67
                          Glory Hole Monitor
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 4538

                          #72
                          I want to see a Youtube video of Twigg playing skeet with his Xbox.


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                          • Twigg4075
                            Kindergarten Cop
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 20056

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Garrett67
                            I want to see a Youtube video of Twigg playing skeet with his Xbox.
                            FPS Russia already did that.

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