[ALL] Assassin's Creed: What's Next??

[Swarley]

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There are spoilers about AC3 and previous AC titles. If you don't want them spoiled, don't read.

So what's next for the series? Obviously the Assassin's have a new problem now, and that's Juno. So where does the story go from here? With Desmond sacrificing himself, obviously there's going to be a new present day Assassin, but who? Are we going to get AC4 next or is it going to be some sort of half-sequel? Will Desmond return kind of like Subject 16 did? Are the Assassin's and Templars going to somewhat unite to try and destroy Juno? I mean, for a little while in AC3, Connor flirted with the idea of trying to unite the two sides, so maybe that will be explored again. What kind of ancestor character would you like to see? We've had some pretty different ones so far. One of the big draws to this series is the old time periods that they use with the Animus, so that will most certainly return. Another big thing is what time period are they going to use for the new main character's ancestors? What time period would you love to see?

Also, anything else you want to see in the future or discuss about the series, do so.

[Swarley]

Come on, I can't be the only Assassin's Creed fanatic on the site lol. Somebody else has to have an opinion on what's happened and where they think the series should go from here.

[SethMode]

I have an opinion, I just don't like it. I think that they fucked the franchise when they let go the head of it (and even before then I felt like the ending of AC2 was a little insane -- in fairness, I think he was there through Brotherhood, which also had a weird ending until further explained).

AC3 was overall a disappointment for me, but not because of the overall story, more so the missed opportunities in game (key members of the war were non-existent, George Washington was an afterthought despite advertisement beforehand). That being said, the overall story of AC is pretty bad at this point. They spend so much time trying to sow seeds of doubt throughout, that I can't understand why anyone would EVER want to be an Assassin. What is it that they're upholding? What is their ultimate goal? I liked it more after 1 and even 2 to a degree where it was just Assassins vs. Templars. When it became Assassins vs. Templars vs. some stupid Solar Flare, it all became silly. And further, even in the instance where they HAD a chance to go in an interesting direction with it (Desmond as Jesus), they fucked it up and just had him drop dead.

This story was off the rails for a while now, but now it's just ludicrous. It's weird that I almost want to go back to the day where a game that I thought was about a dude killing people during the Crusades but NO WAIT! He's in the future! But this game is repetitive!" was the better game. AC1 is tough to sit through, but at least it had a focus. I feel like now they're just figuring it out as they go, which is fine, but what they're figuring out is just dumb. And whatever excuse they're going to make to take me back to Victorian England will not be good enough (that is my guess for the next game).

They need to just revamp from here on. The Desmond story was a bit of a thud, but it's the kind of overarching world you can work with. You should either make self contained stories (I think that this would be best, honestly), or go in with a beginning, middle and end already planned.

/deep breath

Sorry, I wanted to respond to this thread before, but this is a series that I love, and my not being wild about its story is not easy.

[Swarley]

I definitely agree that AC3 was a letdown. I'm still not sure if the fact that this was my most anticipated game of the year is impacting my thoughts of this game (making me more disappointed). I actually like the huge cliff-hangers. The solar flare thing, eh, I dunno. It's not the best, but when this series first started, who knows. I just thought the game started way too slow, and there just wasn't any substance there for the Assassin's. I wanted a connection between Connor and the previous ones we've played with, which was nearly non-existant. Plus they just kind of left the Revolution there at the end. You have this build up with all of these battles and these historical characters, but then at the end these people just disappear.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the end of Desmond's story. It just seems like there was this huge build up towards not only the overall story, but him in particular, that it's just like wait, what? On the other hand, it's good that his story is done. I think the next one could possibly go back to the beginning of the brotherhood. The French Revolution is also a time period that seems to be thrown around a lot on the internet. I'm really interested to see who takes Desmond's place as the main present day character. Hopefully the new character from the past is someone that's more in line with Ezio. Someone that is all about the Brotherhood and doesn't have all of these personal issues and missions that are more important to him than focusing on the Assassins (like Connor).

[Swarley]

However, I still enjoyed 3, even if it didn't come close to the awesomeness of AC2 and Brotherhood. Now that the solar flare is over, I think this whole Juno thing could be a pretty cool story. I loved the new combat stuff that was introduced in AC3. Looking forward to seeing what Ubisoft rolls out at E3 '13.

[SethMode]

I definitely agree that AC3 was a letdown. I'm still not sure if the fact that this was my most anticipated game of the year is impacting my thoughts of this game (making me more disappointed). I actually like the huge cliff-hangers. The solar flare thing, eh, I dunno. It's not the best, but when this series first started, who knows. I just thought the game started way too slow, and there just wasn't any substance there for the Assassin's. I wanted a connection between Connor and the previous ones we've played with, which was nearly non-existant. Plus they just kind of left the Revolution there at the end. You have this build up with all of these battles and these historical characters, but then at the end these people just disappear.

I'm still not sure how I feel about the end of Desmond's story. It just seems like there was this huge build up towards not only the overall story, but him in particular, that it's just like wait, what? On the other hand, it's good that his story is done. I think the next one could possibly go back to the beginning of the brotherhood. The French Revolution is also a time period that seems to be thrown around a lot on the internet. I'm really interested to see who takes Desmond's place as the main present day character. Hopefully the new character from the past is someone that's more in line with Ezio. Someone that is all about the Brotherhood and doesn't have all of these personal issues and missions that are more important to him than focusing on the Assassins (like Connor).

Great post man. You even went further into a lot of my irritations (the best part of the game was when Conner and his dad were working together, and then *poof* one letter makes Conner pissed at his dad but still helping Washington (even though Washington ordered his tribe burned and killed.)

I think you are right, at least from my perspective. My expectations were too great. I do like cliff hangers, but only if they're going somewhere, and it felt like if this was the end than the cliff hangers were worthless.

Other things I'm just now thinking of: Aquilles is not featured enough. He seems like such an awesome story point, and he is just squandered. IT IS NEVER BROUGHT UP UNTIL THE END OF THE GAME THAT HE SUGGESTS THAT CONNER BE "CONNER'S" NAME! That really, REALLY bothered me, because I felt like it could be a very poignant moment, especially considering how often he acted like he was sad that Conner didn't come visit him.

I hate this. It's a very good game and I like it a lot. I just think if they keep going in this direction it would be a bad thing. The story telling in this game is all over the place and hard to follow, which wasn't even the case in Revelations (although I never finished it). I guess I was just thinking that this game would be a 1 - 2 jump, where as it felt like a step down from 2.

On a more positive note, the French Revolution would also be awesome. I do think that they need a more positive character like Ezio though. Conner, while being a nice blend between Mr. Bland Altier and Ezio, still wasn't as fun as the real deal. The good part is though, that they have almost unlimited potential. I have faith given the ways the series has gone overall. And it helps that they have unlimited possibilities (particularly considering how they like to play it fast and loose with history).

[SethMode]

And yeah, after that mostly negative post, I ALSO have to say, that I really liked the game. It just let me down.

[Swarley]

Great post man. You even went further into a lot of my irritations (the best part of the game was when Conner and his dad were working together, and then *poof* one letter makes Conner pissed at his dad but still helping Washington (even though Washington ordered his tribe burned and killed.)

Other things I'm just now thinking of: Aquilles is not featured enough. He seems like such an awesome story point, and he is just squandered.

I loved the idea of an Assassin and a Templar working together. I mean, you've never really gotten a partner in the games before, and that was a cool aspect, especially the confusion it was causing Connor. Like, our goals seem to be the same, but they aren't. It seemed like it was going to be a big thing to come, that the two sides try to unite, but then it just disappears in an instant.

Totally agree with Achilles. He was such an interesting character, but he's not covered at all. How did the Assassin's get to America? How did Achilles become like the last one over here? What's his Assassin story? I mean wtf... The story has usually been a bright spot for this series, but it just wasn't there this time around. The combat is great and all, but without the story, a game like this isn't going to flourish (Dishonored).

I did love it, but the story-telling needs to be stepped up in AC4, or AC: whatever the next one is called.

[Guest]

It's definitely disappointing. Consider the fact that Desmond may or may not be dead as well, and my head is spinning with how to wrap my mind around all the different ways they could move this. I don't mind the story within a story, but they've really convoluted this right now.

Also, what the hell were they talking about after I went from the Evacuation back to Boston about pivots? Was that something I missed from earlier, or something new? Again, a mysterious person talking about a hack means Desmond could be alive. Is it another sect of Assassins, or did Abstergo find out the location from Desmond's fathers Animus memories and now they have him again?

You would think that with the game being a trilogy, there would be some finite closure. I guess that is the most disappointing aspect to this game. All it does is wrap up the solar flare story.

[Swarley]

Man, I'm really wanting to go back and replay some of these games now, but my backlog is so retardedly long right now, I know I shouldn't.

[tigstah]

just started ac2, i hope i can get thru this by thanksgiving.....who knows.

[TeflonDonny]

It's definitely disappointing. Consider the fact that Desmond may or may not be dead as well, and my head is spinning with how to wrap my mind around all the different ways they could move this. I don't mind the story within a story, but they've really convoluted this right now.

Also, what the hell were they talking about after I went from the Evacuation back to Boston about pivots? Was that something I missed from earlier, or something new? Again, a mysterious person talking about a hack means Desmond could be alive. Is it another sect of Assassins, or did Abstergo find out the location from Desmond's fathers Animus memories and now they have him again?

You would think that with the game being a trilogy, there would be some finite closure. I guess that is the most disappointing aspect to this game. All it does is wrap up the solar flare story.

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[SethMode]

I realize that it's to unlock the cheat mode, but I think what Thomas' point was, all of the sudden it's as if there is a new handler and a DIFFERENT person in the Animus (not Shaun and Desmond, obviously). The fact that they didn't just make it Shaun's voice as if we just went back to just before the end at least gives the impression that maybe it's someone else.

Or maybe it's just nonsense. It's just a series that makes very deliberate twists though, so I can understand the confusion/curiosity.

[Swarley]

Chinese artist Chaoyuan Xu did some fan made Assassin's Creed art revolving around the Chinese Dynasties. Some really cool stuff and would make a fantastic setting for a future AC game.

 

[j.hen]

Badass, but I doubt they'd do it. Rather have that time period than just about any other at this point though, they should throw in some present day fighting and stealth missions too.