NFL2K Comeback: 2K Sports To Make NFL A Offer That Can't Be Refused

[JimLeavy59]

[MVPete]

Bill Gates should give 2K whatever money it needs to get the rights to be allowed to make an NFL game, then make it an xbox exclusive.

[Aso]

Bill Gates should give 2K whatever money it needs to get the rights to be allowed to make an NFL game, then make it an xbox exclusive.

I would immediately buy an XBox if this happened.

Edit: Does this guy actually say anything concrete? It sounds very speculative. Don't play with my emotions.

[ryne candy]

I'd buy it the 1st year, just so they make it a 2nd year.

[ThunderHorse]

Hip Hop Gamer's credibility isn't concrete. There's a legitimate sentiment out there that he often desperately tries to say anything in order to get more subscribers and views.

This is the second 2K15 video he's made. The previous video he claimed that he's heard "rumors" that 2K had brought in NFL players to do facial scans and motion capture for 2K's Eco-Motion, in order to make something to show the NFL they can still make a football game.

My thing is this. I don't think it matters who has the exclusive, as long as there is an exclusive we are all always going to run into problems. Primarily and most importantly, a lot of folks are going to miss Madden and be pissed, just like a lot of folks have missed 2K for a long time in Football gaming. Secondly, if 2K has no competition what's to stop them from being like EA and compartmentalizing football over a 4-5 year span in order to maximize profits?

Another thing about the exclusive when it comes to the NFL is the amount of control the NFL has over the final product. Madden used to have tattoos and hits that made guys lose their helmets, you don't see that anymore but we all still see that on Sundays. The NFL doesn't want the video game to reflect that. If 2K was to make another Football game, I would actually prefer they don't make an officially licensed NFL game, because the NFL won't allow a real football game, only a game that is a fairy tale with players who don't swear, fight, get tattoos, or make mistakes and hit each other in illegal ways.

2K's last football game is seen as a pretty colossal failure because of the fact they barely sold more than 500,000 units when a game like the original "Blitz the League" sold more than 1,000,000. But if casual folks could look past the lack of customization tools and offline game modes, they'd see probably the deepest on the field football game ever made. In Fact, the game is almost too deep when it comes to on the field gameplay. Someone couldn't just pick up that game and have fun with it, and I think that, more than anything, is what made that game crash and burn so hard.

If 2K would just come with another non licensed game but allowed users to have customization tools as strong as the ones we saw in Backbreaker (folks were creating NFL logos pretty easily), what's to stop them from selling all the units necessary to be seen as successful without having to pay the NFL some ridiculous amount of money just to make a title. 2K already had fully functional online leagues with up to 32 users in 2007. That included in depth stat tracking and the 2K league website to help folks track their league progress, standings, and statistics. A lot of the things EA is trying to do with Madden now, 2K already did. EA's living sidelines were a selling point for next gen - 2K already did that better in 2007. Bill asked the developers in an interview whether we would ever see something like bad snaps, botched holds, kickers slipping, weather affecting outcomes on the field. They answered no, but maybe in the future. 2K already did this.

I don't think 2K needs the NFL to make a successful football game but I know they want to. That's part of the reason 2K8's customization was so minimal.

[buckeye]

Dude is a moron. He said NBA 2k has more people playing online than all EA SPORTS games combined... what a lying piece of garbage Lol.

If you believe this... I cannot ever take you serious. Dude is out to get views and money... that's it. He will say whatever he has to.

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[buckeye]

Hip Hop Gamer's credibility isn't concrete. There's a legitimate sentiment out there that he often desperately tries to say anything in order to get more subscribers and views.

This is the second 2K15 video he's made. The previous video he claimed that he's heard "rumors" that 2K had brought in NFL players to do facial scans and motion capture for 2K's Eco-Motion, in order to make something to show the NFL they can still make a football game.

My thing is this. I don't think it matters who has the exclusive, as long as there is an exclusive we are all always going to run into problems. Primarily and most importantly, a lot of folks are going to miss Madden and be pissed, just like a lot of folks have missed 2K for a long time in Football gaming. Secondly, if 2K has no competition what's to stop them from being like EA and compartmentalizing football over a 4-5 year span in order to maximize profits?

Another thing about the exclusive when it comes to the NFL is the amount of control the NFL has over the final product. Madden used to have tattoos and hits that made guys lose their helmets, you don't see that anymore but we all still see that on Sundays. The NFL doesn't want the video game to reflect that. If 2K was to make another Football game, I would actually prefer they don't make an officially licensed NFL game, because the NFL won't allow a real football game, only a game that is a fairy tale with players who don't swear, fight, get tattoos, or make mistakes and hit each other in illegal ways.

2K's last football game is seen as a pretty colossal failure because of the fact they barely sold more than 500,000 units when a game like the original "Blitz the League" sold more than 1,000,000. But if casual folks could look past the lack of customization tools and offline game modes, they'd see probably the deepest on the field football game ever made. In Fact, the game is almost too deep when it comes to on the field gameplay. Someone couldn't just pick up that game and have fun with it, and I think that, more than anything, is what made that game crash and burn so hard.

If 2K would just come with another non licensed game but allowed users to have customization tools as strong as the ones we saw in Backbreaker (folks were creating NFL logos pretty easily), what's to stop them from selling all the units necessary to be seen as successful without having to pay the NFL some ridiculous amount of money just to make a title. 2K already had fully functional online leagues with up to 32 users in 2007. That included in depth stat tracking and the 2K league website to help folks track their league progress, standings, and statistics. A lot of the things EA is trying to do with Madden now, 2K already did. EA's living sidelines were a selling point for next gen - 2K already did that better in 2007. Bill asked the developers in an interview whether we would ever see something like bad snaps, botched holds, kickers slipping, weather affecting outcomes on the field. They answered no, but maybe in the future. 2K already did this.

I don't think 2K needs the NFL to make a successful football game but I know they want to. That's part of the reason 2K8's customization was so minimal.

The big part of the equation many are missing is:

It would take 2-3 years to make a playable game. That's 2-3 years of paying a studio to make the game without any profits in return based solely on the hopes that the license is no longer there AND the game actually sells this time. You are talking a multi-million dollar investment.

Even at a cheapened price point their best year wasn't close to Madden (and by cheapening the price, they ultimately cost themselves a license by pissing off the NFL). It would be financial suicide.

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[krulmichael]

Dude is a moron. He said NBA 2k has more people playing online than all EA SPORTS games combined... what a lying piece of garbage Lol.

If you believe this... I cannot ever take you serious. Dude is out to get views and money... that's it. He will say whatever he has to.

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Yea I'm pretty sure FIFA alone dominates all other sports titles online.

[buckeye]

Yea I'm pretty sure FIFA alone dominates all other sports titles online.

Exactly. NCAA and Madden have more than double the consistent online usage as well. Not share about NHL or Tiger

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[Aso]

Not having the NFL license in a football game would be a colossal mistake for 2K imo regardless of how much customization the game has. Without accurate NFL rosters already in game a very large amount of people won't buy the game. Doesn't matter what else is in the game they won't buy it so it still won't be able to stand up to Madden and it would probably be another one and done game.

[spursup]

Dude is a moron. He said NBA 2k has more people playing online than all EA SPORTS games combined... what a lying piece of garbage Lol.

If you believe this... I cannot ever take you serious. Dude is out to get views and money... that's it. He will say whatever he has to.

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This is entirely true. 2K should make sure their online servers can stay online for more than a week at a time before people start making claims like this. FIFA and Madden have wildly better online play than NBA 2K.

[ThunderHorse]

The big part of the equation many are missing is:

It would take 2-3 years to make a playable game. That's 2-3 years of paying a studio to make the game without any profits in return based solely on the hopes that the license is no longer there AND the game actually sells this time. You are talking a multi-million dollar investment.

Even at a cheapened price point their best year wasn't close to Madden (and by cheapening the price, they ultimately cost themselves a license by pissing off the NFL). It would be financial suicide.

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The general idea behind this rumor is that 2K has in fact been developing a game to be ready when the official license is back up for bidding. The NFL License is up after the superbowl and there hasn't been much news on the NFL or EA getting together to renew the deal.

If 2K really wanted to get back into football, They'd have something ready to go.

Not having the NFL license in a football game would be a colossal mistake for 2K imo regardless of how much customization the game has. Without accurate NFL rosters already in game a very large amount of people won't buy the game. Doesn't matter what else is in the game they won't buy it so it still won't be able to stand up to Madden and it would probably be another one and done game.

Blitz the league already proved that a generic football game can sell more than a million copies. The NFL License isn't necessarily essential to sell a good football game and make money.

[JimLeavy59]

Blitz had a weird appeal to it though. That game wasn't trying to appeal to an sim audience .

[buckeye]

The general idea behind this rumor is that 2K has in fact been developing a game to be ready when the official license is back up for bidding. The NFL License is up after the superbowl and there hasn't been much news on the NFL or EA getting together to renew the deal.

If 2K really wanted to get back into football, They'd have something ready to go.



Blitz the league already proved that a generic football game can sell more than a million copies. The NFL License isn't necessarily essential to sell a good football game and make money.

The license renewal will be entirely up to EA at this point. It didn't sound like they wanted to last time... the NFL had to offer them discounted pricing.

That rumor of 2K secretly producing a game behind the scene has been around since the dinosaurs. The most likely bet for an unlicensed game would be who you least think... EA. Makes more sense for them to strip madden down and add user customization in an attempt to circumvent the NCAA Disaster. Doubtful but wouldn't be a surprise.

[JimLeavy59]

The amount of EA damage control man.

I'm pretty sure 2k has been putting something together for the past few years I'm sure they have a large enough team to do so.