EA license with the NFLPA good for another few years

[buckeye]

Towing that company line. I applaud your loyalty.

The only loyalty I have is to provide facts. I don't work on assumptions or misinformation. I dont work for EA... if i did, i wouldnt even respond because really there isnt any value in responding. I am responding because I still get lost on how folks still get heated over this. Facts are there, yet they want to twist them to suit their own arguments while ignoring what's been out there for years.

I'm not saying the license should be exclusive... I'm just saying it is and that is how the NFL operates. They aren't going to change it for a small minority of people still being butthurt 10 years down the road...

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[Houston]

I am responding because I still get lost on how folks still get heated over this.

They aren't going to change it for a small minority of people still being butthurt 10 years down the road...

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Let's face the facts here, Madden isn't perfect but its better than whatever 2K could produce in their first few years. Exclusivity killed 2K football.

[JimLeavy59]

Let's face the facts here, Madden isn't perfect but its better than whatever 2K could produce in their first few years. Exclusivity killed 2K football.

I'll take what the first few years of 2k over what Madden has been putting out.

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I'll take what the first few years of 2k over what Madden has been putting out.

Then you can go get the last NFL 2K game and have fun with that. I am just fine putting Madden 25 into my PS4 and playing that.

[MrBill]

EA license with the NFLPA good for another few years

The fact is that EA, or Tiburon specifically, has been showing improvement on Madden for the past 3 releases. Really 4 if you count the Xbox One and PS4 versions.

I realize that it is "cool" to hate on EA but that is nothing more than an extension of console fanboi'sm. The only reason I want to see competition is so that Madden can be an even better title. 2K will never be able to put out a game that is a threat to Madden as the premier NFL video game. What they can do is push EA to provide more resources to the development team in order to maintain that edge. If that happens, we all win.

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The fact is that EA, or Tiburon specifically, has been showing improvement on Madden for the past 3 releases. Really 4 if you count the Xbox One and PS4 versions.

I realize that it is "cool" to hate on EA but that is nothing more than an extension of console fanboi'sm. The only reason I want to see competition is so that Madden can be an even better title. 2K will never be able to put out a game is a threat to Madden as the premier NFL video game. What they can do is push EA to provide more resources to the development team in order to maintain that edge. If that happens, we all win.

Exactly. I have no problem playing Madden 25 on PS4. In fact I think its a better game than people are saying it is, but it just happens to be in that "cool to hate on Madden/EA" shadow.

[JimLeavy59]

Exactly. I have no problem playing Madden 25 on PS4. In fact I think its a better game than people are saying it is, but it just happens to be in that "cool to hate on Madden/EA" shadow.

And this is why the Madden crew is allowed to take features out of the game and repackage them as "new", or better yet its okay for them to keep using the same game code since 1999. Because people like you simple go "well its the best we got".

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And this is why the Madden crew is allowed to take features out of the game and repackage them as "new", or better yet its okay for them to keep using the same game code since 1999. Because people like you simple go "well its the best we got".

When did I ever say I would like a completely stagnant football game? I think a few years ago, the game WAS largely stagnant, and that was why I wasn't buying Madden for a while. They made some nice additions to the last few games they put out though, and EA earned my trust back. I never said I would be okay if features were suddenly taken out of the game.

[Epidemik]

I think part of the reason for NFL "making available" an exclusivity license is so that it can have better control over how the NFL is portrayed in the games that have their name on it. NFL has been increasingly more so protective of its image and how its portrayed as we have all noticed.

Don't know if its just me, but I haven't seen someone go out with a "concussion" or "severe concussion" in madden 25

[Sven Draconian]

The fact is that EA, or Tiburon specifically, has been showing improvement on Madden for the past 3 releases. Really 4 if you count the Xbox One and PS4 versions.

I realize that it is "cool" to hate on EA but that is nothing more than an extension of console fanboi'sm. The only reason I want to see competition is so that Madden can be an even better title. 2K will never be able to put out a game that is a threat to Madden as the premier NFL video game. What they can do is push EA to provide more resources to the development team in order to maintain that edge. If that happens, we all win.

It's really not a good game. The game is still operating on the same core engine it was on PS2 (spare me "There are multiple engines" nonsense, I'm referring specifically to the game play and the AI in particular). The same plays that worked on NCAA 2007 work in NCAA 2014. The AI still behaves the same in regards to ridiculous blitzing (lets send engage eight and corner blitz 10 times a game... each) and the game still has numerous broken plays (like RB screens... the AI wants to call them 4+ times a game and they always result in a sack). The game has the same BS line stunts it's had since PS1 that have NEVER worked. It has the same ancient coverage that don't really work like they say they should. Lineman still can't actually pull and block anybody. It's still missing a host of basic plays. It still has a completely outdated defensive model.

The only way to make the single player competitive is to put it on Heisman and jack up the CPU sliders to the point that you're defense can't actually play. 2-3 lineman getting pancaked consistently and multiple plays with 4+ broken tackles. The AI can't consistently put together a drive and the only big plays it can manage are when you get some ridiculous super RB stuff. It can't throw deep if you have anything resembling "stick skills."

Offensively it's the same mess. You can turn up the difficulty to the point that you can't actually throw a pass over 10 yards without getting sacked, or until the DL just runs over your OL. That's not an enjoyable game. But the AI can't help aligning in every gimmicky front they stick in the game and running the same inane blitz packages. It's 3rd and 3, I have 2 backs and a TE. AI comes out in a 3-2 dime package. Good stuff. Sure, sometimes they make the stop because a blitzing dime back can warp from outside the tackle, bend 90 degrees down the line and knock my RB backwards (fuck you physics), but that's a rarity. They still don't know how to make the defense actually line up to your formation and the game will regularly leave uncovered gaps, uncovered receivers and just generally unsound alignments. It'll compensate by have some ridiculous block shedding animation fire and blow up a play, but it's the same shit that has been wrong since PS2... or earlier.

The game is relatively fun playing in person. It can be fun online against people you know. However, the general online population isn't really enjoyable. I don't play the game to spend hours in "lab" learning this year's latest cheese shit so I can be competitive. There's also the time issue... it takes 15 minutes to find a damn game (from boot up, to finding a game, to loading everything in) so you can play a 25 minute game that your opponent may or may not finish.

EDITED to add: Oh yea, and the AI still is laughably bad at running the option plays in the spread option.... which has been the dominant offense in college football for nearly a decade now. As much fun as it is watching the AI lose 5 yards every time it dials up "speed option", or watching it run "zone read" and keep the ball for a solid 7 yard loss.... I think it's about time that the most run offense in college football actually works. (Yea yea, the series is dead. It speaks more to the general inability of the games to actually function).

[MrBill]

Don't know if its just me, but I haven't seen someone go out with a "concussion" or "severe concussion" in madden 25

I don't think we will see concussions return to the list of injuries in Madden or any other future NFL licensed games.

[Villain]

The point isn't that the NFL and EA are getting rich. The point is that knuckleheads keep paying up for a shitty game that has no real competition and therefore no real reason to innovate.

[krulmichael]

I don't think we will see concussions return to the list of injuries in Madden or any other future NFL licensed games.

Concussions are in the game. They made the change that if players suffer a concussion they are out for the remainder of the game. Don't think you miss multiple games though, just that game.

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Concussions are in the game. They made the change that if players suffer a concussion they are out for the remainder of the game. Don't think you miss multiple games though, just that game.

They seem to happen more in exhibition games, at least for me, so I wouldn't know if players miss multiple games. I think I gave someone a concussion in my Vikings franchise and they missed only 2 quarters so the NFL definitely has some sort of regulation in place.