why dont you buy a gaming pc?

[Twigg4075]

this is just wrong.
Settings - every game has an auto detect feature that sets up the video settings based on your game and if wanted to change a setting its simple enough for a 10 year old. not to mention, all settings are the same for every game so its not like each game has its own settings. they all use the same options.

drivers - again i updated my cards drivers once in 2 years. im actually glad the game prompted me to do so to play it so i even knew i should update.

components- i built my PC 2 years ago and have not upgraded anything. My current build will be good for at least 2 more years. you buy a new console every 5 years and your new consoles hardware is weaker than my 2 year old PC hardware

Well, I guess listening to Cheapy D and Shipwreck on the CAGcast constantly talking about having to adjust settings and having PC games crash on them and not being able to get certain games to run even though they both have beastly PCs is a figment of my imagination? And that's just one example.

But if you really want to go back and forth...

Everything I've seen/heard/read tells me that it would cost me close to $1000 to "build" a decent gaming PC. For that money I was able to almost cover a PS4, XBone and WiiU. All of which only require me to pop a disc in or download a game and I know it will run.

I also have no interest in either configuring my PC to run on my tv, which is in my basement while my PC is in my office on the main floor of my house, or spend any of my gaming time hunched over a keyboard. Popping my recliner back, sipping on some bourbon next to my pellet stove and playing Killzone or Forza (neither of which are available on PC) with a comfortable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing games on a PC.

Just my two cents.

[CCBrink]

I prefer consoles because I don't have to worry about having to upgrade my PC to push the newest games to their potential. With consoles, the developers only have to worry about 1 or 2 hardware configurations and getting the most out of whats available to them. We have seen games recently where some developers were able to push the PS3/360 and still create impressive games on 7 year old hardware.

[Maynard]

Well, I guess listening to Cheapy D and Shipwreck on the CAGcast constantly talking about having to adjust settings and having PC games crash on them and not being able to get certain games to run even though they both have beastly PCs is a figment of my imagination? And that's just one example.

But if you really want to go back and forth...

Everything I've seen/heard/read tells me that it would cost me close to $1000 to "build" a decent gaming PC. For that money I was able to almost cover a PS4, XBone and WiiU. All of which only require me to pop a disc in or download a game and I know it will run.

I also have no interest in either configuring my PC to run on my tv, which is in my basement while my PC is in my office on the main floor of my house, or spend any of my gaming time hunched over a keyboard. Popping my recliner back, sipping on some bourbon next to my pellet stove and playing Killzone or Forza (neither of which are available on PC) with a comfortable controller>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing games on a PC.

Just my two cents.

i dont listen to cag, but if those guys are having those types of issues then maybe you shouldnt listen to them because it honestly sounds like they are not very smart to be having as many issues as you make it sound. As you know i pirate most of my PC games so I am playing or trying almost every game on the market. I never, i mean never have issues with running games. I might have had 5 crashes in a years time, but how many times have you had a game freeze on you? I am not sure if you are embelleshing to make your point, but there is no need to be defensive since I am very much interested in what people like you think because i feel like you are misled and I can hopefully provide you insight to over comes your objections.

$1000 would build you a top of the line system. but $750 would get you a good, solid system that would run all your games no problem. isnt that extra cost worth it to have all the great mods and graphics that are 100 times better?

im not sure why you would have to configure your PC to run your tv.

your personal setup is your choice. i have a great chair i play games in. in fact, its the same chair i play my console games in on my 57inch tv. I have a 27inch monitor and in no way am i uncomfortable playing games. if you setup your PC in a office of course thats not a good setup. but if you setup things right, then you can be extremely comfy.

you mentioned controller again. i have addressed this a few times but in case you missed it. Any console game that is on the PC can use a ps3/360 controller and most PC exclusives can too.

[Twigg4075]

Look on the back of a PC game box or Steam download description and you see a long list of system requirements. Look on the back of a console game box...

[Maynard]

I prefer consoles because I don't have to worry about having to upgrade my PC to push the newest games to their potential. With consoles, the developers only have to worry about 1 or 2 hardware configurations and getting the most out of whats available to them. We have seen games recently where some developers were able to push the PS3/360 and still create impressive games on 7 year old hardware.

how often do you think a PC gamer has to upgrade their PC to run the newest games? what would need to be upgraded?

[Maynard]

Look on the back of a PC game box or Steam download description and you see a long list of system requirements. Look on the back of a console game box...

no offense man, but you are really not informed. but thats ok....those different requirements are universal to every game. for example

Battlefield 4 system requirements
The minimum PC system requirements for Battlefield 4 are expected to be:
Dual core CPU (Intel Core i5 or AMD “Bulldozer”).
At least 4 GB main system memory
Graphics card with at least 512 MB of VRAM and support for DirectX 10
30+ GB of harddrive space
Windows Vista

Recommended system requirements
The recommended PC system requirements for optimal visual quality and frame rates:
Quad core CPU (Intel Core i5 or i7) at 3 Ghz
4 GB memory (8 GB for 64-bit operating systems)
A modern DX11 graphics card with 2+ GB of video memory, GeForce 600 series or Radeon 7000 series
Windows 7 64-bit operating system (Windows 8 is supported as well)
30+ GB of free harddrive space

CPU, RAM, GPU, OS, HDD space are the standard requirements. those minimum requirements are found in PC's 4 or 5 years old. and the recommended they list are less than what is on my 2 year old PC.

its not like its hard to understand any of this, but if it is you can always goto can i run it and it will tell you if where your PC stands as far as running a PC game

[NAHSTE]

Gaming PCs are for nerds. Consoles are nerdy, but less so.

[Garrett67]

Its a matter of preference and what you want to accomplish.

I play some pretty bad ass looking games on my newly built PC but I mainly built it for all of my flight simming needs.

I can really see both sides of it , honestly though.

Since I got my PC, I rarely turn on my Xbone. I do sometimes just because I feel guilty. I do play my PS3 though. I'm a graphics whore and although the consoles do look pretty darn good, the PC games are amazing graphically. I don't mind playing with a Kb/m, I think the mouse is much more accurate for aiming, and quicker.

As for games crashing, that doesn't happen much nowadays. I know it used to be a problem in the 'old days' but I can't say it has happened to me in the 2 months I've had my PC and my flight sims are pushing the "F" out of my CPU and GPU, much more than a regular PC game does.

Last night I was playing Far Cry 3 (on PC), yes a game that is at least 2 years old and I was walking around just amazed how realistic it looks. Yes, I know I used to say that with NHL '94 but I mean it this time!


The only configuring I do is when I go into the graphics setting and turn everything up to max.


I don't think neither is better though. It just depends on what you want to do and I personally can't live without either one.

[Twigg4075]

no offense man, but you are really not informed. but thats ok....those different requirements are universal to every game. for example

Battlefield 4 system requirements
The minimum PC system requirements for Battlefield 4 are expected to be:
Dual core CPU (Intel Core i5 or AMD “Bulldozer”).
At least 4 GB main system memory
Graphics card with at least 512 MB of VRAM and support for DirectX 10
30+ GB of harddrive space
Windows Vista

Recommended system requirements
The recommended PC system requirements for optimal visual quality and frame rates:
Quad core CPU (Intel Core i5 or i7) at 3 Ghz
4 GB memory (8 GB for 64-bit operating systems)
A modern DX11 graphics card with 2+ GB of video memory, GeForce 600 series or Radeon 7000 series
Windows 7 64-bit operating system (Windows 8 is supported as well)
30+ GB of free harddrive space
CPU, RAM, GPU, OS, HDD space are the standard requirements. those minimum requirements are found in PC's 4 or 5 years old. and the recommended they list are less than what is on my 2 year old PC.

its not like its hard to understand any of this, but if it is you can always goto can i run it and it will tell you if where your PC stands as far as running a PC game

As opposed to the back of a console game box that says "Required HDD space"...

[Swarley]

I do want a gaming PC, and hopefully I'll be taking that plunge this year. However, the console exclusives are always what get me to take a console first. I've always loved most of the Sony exclusives, and those will come first and foremost. If I didn't have a PS4 and couldn't play inFamous in March, I'd be quite sad. I'll admit, the XB1 was a waste on my part, b/c I only have one game for it and I don't see myself getting another for it for awhile either, but, that's my love for Forza and racing with the guys here (PC racing sims are money pit, so no thanks there). But, I do really want a gaming PC for some exclusives, to play some good RPGs with mods and use it to stream some of my older consoles. Maybe this summer, we'll see.

[jms493]

You dont need a "gaming" pc to play some really cool games on steam...ala Gone Home.

[Maynard]

As opposed to the back of a console game box that saus "Required HDD space"...

are you saying that info is to hard for you to understand? cmon man. the last time i looked at system requirements was before i built my system. have not looked at one since.

i made this thread knowing what the replies would be and knew the ignorance was going to be there. people used to use flip phones...you switched to a smart phone because they are better. instead of looking at a pc and seeing all these ridiculousness negatives, why not try to look at it from the positive side. better graphics, better framerates, faster load times, free online service, robust friends list and community, huge mod community.

yes, you cant play forza, but you can pay your $60 and play online for free. you can complete a game and get all your achievements and then install mods to make the game few brand new again. you pay
$20 on a console game to make a game feel new again. mods are free

[jms493]

And fyi...nobody reads those requirements...

[Maynard]

I do want a gaming PC, and hopefully I'll be taking that plunge this year. However, the console exclusives are always what get me to take a console first. I've always loved most of the Sony exclusives, and those will come first and foremost. If I didn't have a PS4 and couldn't play inFamous in March, I'd be quite sad. I'll admit, the XB1 was a waste on my part, b/c I only have one game for it and I don't see myself getting another for it for awhile either, but, that's my love for Forza and racing with the guys here (PC racing sims are money pit, so no thanks there). But, I do really want a gaming PC for some exclusives, to play some good RPGs with mods and use it to stream some of my older consoles. Maybe this summer, we'll see.

no way am i suggesting people dump there consoles. i have a ps3 for games like GTA5 and streaming from the PC and any of those little things i need (netflix or whatever). consoles have their benefits for sure. But people spend all this money to own wii, handhelds, sony, MS devices, but they leave out the PC.

if you are a true gamer, then the PC should be right on top of your list of must have systems.

[Garrett67]

if you are a true gamer, then the PC should be right on top of your list of must have systems.

You should have led off with this because that is the best point in this entire thread.