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Haven't seen it yet, but I plan to.
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i plan on watching tonite.
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Definitely plan on watching it. However my thoughts on our education system's recent downswing/failures is that is lies solely on the blame of parents. If the parents are not motivating the child and helping them and promoting schoolwork in the home, then there is nothing anyone can do. I'm not talking about yelling at the kid to do their homework, but legitimately explaining why school is so important.
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Are there flaws with education? Definitely, there is massive overhead, tons of corruption (in major cities), and what looks like decreasing results.
But if you have a better idea, go right ahead. With budget cuts, the idea of trying to lure the best and the brightest into education is laughable at best. Not only that, but teachers have decreasing support from administration, support staff, and most importantly, parents.
As a teacher, I cannot count how many times I've had parents come to argue with me that their little Johnny or Susie could never have done what I saw them do. You could never believe how much blatant disrespect is given to the position of teacher and even principal in schools. But at the same time, we are expected to deal with any and all students in any class unlike nearly every major education system in the world.
People constantly point out that the US is lagging behind in select testing areas. Well, duh. We educate nearly 100% of our high school students in high level math, we have the same requirements of an AP student as a near dropout. In other countries, these students are weeded out along the process and sent to technical schools or alternative education. They learn basic math, but not nearly to the level we require of 100% of our high school graduates. We could never offer this for monetary and geographic reasons, but we would never blame that. No, instead we expect teachers to educate everyone equally, regardless of future career paths or academic ability.
In the end, there are definitely flaws within teachers unions, lackadaisical teachers, and an overwhelming acceptance of low standards in most urban areas. But the main flaws in education have more to be placed on society, namely parenting, than anything else.Comment
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Why the hate on Banksy? Exit Through the Gift Shop is amazing.Comment
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Says you. That is completely open to interpretation.Originally posted by glenwillettComment
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Why not? I'm not allowed to sit down and watch a Michael Moore documentary and say "that's bullshit!" after the credits roll? I can't debate with my friends whether or not he skewed facts or anything like that? Because it's labeled a "documentary" I have to believe every part of it?Originally posted by glenwillett
Say I sit down and watch a documentary on the Kennedy assassination, if the filmmaker comes to the conclusion that Kennedy was killed by aliens, I'm not allowed debate that because it's a documentary and every aspect of it must be true?
What next? Are you going to tell me that reality TV really isn't reality?!!?
I hate to break it to you, but nothing presented in the American media is non-fiction. Except maybe when Liz Cho reads the news.Comment
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Jeremy should make a teacher's stories thread, where he just bitches about having to teach retarded kids.
Also LOL at having to teach high level math to every kid. IMO it's way to easy to get a high school diploma, at my school you could graduate with algebra being the hardest level math course you've taken. Fuck that shit. Also I think you should have to be able to run the mile in under ten minutes to get your diploma. Fuck fat people.
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Fuck Fat people
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"that movie is complete and utter bullshit" my mother, teacher of 33 years, when I asked if she had seen it.
as nice as it was showing the parents that do care there are even more that don't and they don't show how much of basic education can be tackled at home, like knowing numbers, sight words, and the alphabet before they even get to school. yet with our economy (and this is going back to the 70's and 80's when our problems started) you no longer had the traditional 1 job household. instead you have family start seeing both parents out working and kids becoming latch key kids. and when parents get home they are to exhausted to make sure little johnny or sue are keeping up with their homework.
add into that no longer are teacher expected to teach the 3 r's but manners, sex ed, and a whole host of things that should and used to be taught by parents and you end having kids slip through the cracks, due to teachers just not having enough time to cover all the itinerary for that school year, and making sure they tier their lessons for different learning abilities, making sure multicultural diversities are covered. also it doesn't help when like jeremy said parents refuse to believe their child could have failed/lied/cheated/bullied etc etc so instead of holding them back they just let them move on to the next grade without them being proficient compared to their peers.
the biggest problem comes from a childs reading ability, if they aren't sound in their reading ability (which I feel falls on the shoulders of the parents far more than teachers) by the time they get to 4th-5th grade they won't be able to make sense of the math and science requirements. some kids enter into school without ever having picked up a boo, much less seen one.
as bad as the public school system may be compared to other nations, like jeremy said "you got a better idea, spit it out" so much of the problems lie with the hundreds of parents that use the school systems as glorified daycare centers. for every 1 household like the ones shown in the movie, there are hundreds of others not taking an active part of their childs lives. plus honestly the movie did nothing in the way of offering a solution outside of "charter schools are good" but then that comes back to the economic structure of things. remember that graph of the "drop-out factory" schools they put up, where were most of them again? oh that's right historically poor regions of our country. how are they supposed to get into those charter schools? its an endless cycle of ignorance, apathy, and unaccountability in those areas.
also that 100% math comment that goblin laughed at, laugh all you want, but every kid has to be at 100% testing in algebra. that doesn't matter if the kid is illiterate, dyslexic, or has any other learning disabilities. that kid better test at 100% in proficiency or that school gets its funding cut. and it goes beyond that as well, its every single subject that school teaches, and once again it doesn't matter if that kid is the next einstein or is severely mentally handicapped, 100% is needed by all. which then basically makes that school slowly die or become like the movie said a "drop-out factory"
getting out of this mess and restoring our education system won't happen overnight, nor with dumping millions of dollars into the system or removing unions, board members. it'll start at home with caring parents who take a vested interest in their child's development. what a surprise, a parent who cares about their kids lives and school, checking their homework, shutting off the tv and making sure it gets done, talking to teachers, pushing them to study, actually have kids that do well in school.
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