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  • Warner2BruceTD
    2011 Poster Of The Year
    • Mar 2009
    • 26141

    The Sopranos

    EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A DECADE OLD, THIS CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!!!!! SO GTFO.









    As I rewatch Sopranos for the 5th or 6th time, I am still annoyed by the "death" of Big Pussy.

    In episode 12, Pussy breaks his leg in a car accident while trailing Christopher on the Pokemon card heist. The FBI contact, Skip Lopresti even visits Pussy in the hospital, where it is made clear Pussy has a serious leg injury as he is in a cast and can not walk.

    Fast forward to episode 13, and Pussy is walking around just fine, with no cast, no crutches, or even a limp. Not nearly enough time has passed to heal, because Meadow's graduation is an important part of the story arch and its made very clear that its coming up shortly as we approach episode 13. When Tony gets pinched for the airline tickets, Meadow runs off crying "my graduation is tommorow!".

    Tony is having nightmares and hellucinating all though episode 13. He also gets food poisoning from eating Indian food (with Pussy, btw) and states that he is still sick during the scene when they kill Pussy. However, he is seemingly healthy with no reference to the illness at Meadows graduation, which is implied to be the next day. Did Tony dream the Pussy hit? How else would Pussy have no broken leg? Why is Tony suddenly of perfect health, when he is laid up in bed violently ill just hours earlier? The last time we see Pussy without Tony also in the scene is when he's with Skip at the hospital with his broken leg. But Skip asks him to go to Meadows graduation party wired up. He never shows up. But is he dead, or did he run?

    Tony also claims to have just purchased a new boat, which is where they whack Pussy. I don't recall ever seeing this boat again in future seasons. The only boat we ever see is Stugots. It is conceivable they would sink/destroy the boat, however.

    Pussy is also said to have gone into witness protection by other charcters whenever he is referenced, even in situatons where its just the mob guys who know what "really" happened have no need to lie to each other. He does leave his wife behind. But it does makes sense that if he did finally decide to do his time and enter the program, he would leave her behind, because they were having major domestic issues (they constantly fight, and she even tells Carmella that she is planning on filing for divorce).

    Does anyone recall a scene from S3 on where a character other than Tony directly references that Pussy is dead? Not "gone away" or "disappeared", but DEAD? I will be watching closely for this.

    David Chase's attention for detail is brilliant, so I fail to believe that Pussy's broken leg was just blatantly disregarded or forgotten.
  • EmpireWF
    Giants in the Super Bowl
    • Mar 2009
    • 24082

    #2
    As for them never specifically mentioning Pussy as being dead, couldn't it just be explained that they were worried about bugs and talking openly to people they didn't want to know?

    Don't recall the busted leg issue, been a while since I rewatched it.


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    • Palooza
      Au Revoir, Shoshanna
      • Feb 2009
      • 14265

      #3
      This thread is pathetic! Discuss Sopranos.. NOW!

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      • Champ
        Needs a hobby
        • Oct 2008
        • 14424

        #4
        I've been trying to rewatch the series for awhile now. I keep getting sidetracked by other tv series. Breaking Bad, SOA, ect. I think I might just go buy the complete series.


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        • Palooza
          Au Revoir, Shoshanna
          • Feb 2009
          • 14265

          #5
          Originally posted by Chubby Giangio
          I've been trying to rewatch the series for awhile now. I keep getting sidetracked by other tv series. Breaking Bad, SOA, ect. I think I might just go buy the complete series.
          Funny you mentioned those two shows because they're the ones holding me back from re-watching the Sopranos, too.

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          • Matt
            No longer a noob
            • Jun 2012
            • 1565

            #6
            I KNOW..I KNOW.

            I just started watching this for the first time .

            On Season 2 Episode 8..I think I'll be done with the series by the end of the month.

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            • wr50l
              Glen & CJ are secret Huns
              • Oct 2008
              • 4114

              #7
              Hey Warner, what about way later in the show when Tony is on the run for that murder he committed when he was a low level thug, hiding in Florida with Paulie and they talk about their friend in the ocean?

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              • Maynard
                stupid ass titles
                • Feb 2009
                • 17875

                #8
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                David Chase's attention for detail is brilliant, so I fail to believe that Pussy's broken leg was just blatantly disregarded or forgotten.
                the only fail is you not getting your facts straight before making such an idiotic post. I guess profootballtalk.com doesnt have a tony soprano section, so it makes sense that you would get it wrong.

                For starters

                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD

                As I rewatch Sopranos for the 5th or 6th time, I am still annoyed by the "death" of Big Pussy.

                In episode 12, Pussy breaks his leg in a car accident while trailing Christopher on the Pokemon card heist. The FBI contact, Skip Lopresti even visits Pussy in the hospital, where it is made clear Pussy has a serious leg injury as he is in a cast and can not walk.

                Fast forward to episode 13, and Pussy is walking around just fine, with no cast, no crutches, or even a limp. Not nearly enough time has passed to heal, because Meadow's graduation is an important part of the story arch and its made very clear that its coming up shortly as we approach episode 13. When Tony gets pinched for the airline tickets, Meadow runs off crying "my graduation is tommorow!".
                there was never any discussion as to the severity of pussys leg injury. when skip visits him in the hospital he is not wearing a cast, he is wearing a leg brace and he is sitting upright with the legs bent at the knees. there is nothing to indecate he has anything to prevent him from walking or that he even has a sprain. but you can assume a sprain based on the brace. There is no reason to assume he could not heal in time for the events of the 13th episode


                As for the food poisoning

                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD

                Tony is having nightmares and hellucinating all though episode 13. He also gets food poisoning from eating Indian food (with Pussy, btw) and states that he is still sick during the scene when they kill Pussy. However, he is seemingly healthy with no reference to the illness at Meadows graduation, which is implied to be the next day. Did Tony dream the Pussy hit? How else would Pussy have no broken leg? Why is Tony suddenly of perfect health, when he is laid up in bed violently ill just hours earlier? The last time we see Pussy without Tony also in the scene is when he's with Skip at the hospital with his broken leg. But Skip asks him to go to Meadows graduation party wired up. He never shows up. But is he dead, or did he run?.
                how long do you think that shit lasts? puke for a day and other than a upset stomach, most people can function within 24hrs

                As for the boat
                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                Tony also claims to have just purchased a new boat, which is where they whack Pussy. I don't recall ever seeing this boat again in future seasons. The only boat we ever see is Stugots. It is conceivable they would sink/destroy the boat, however.
                You are assuming the boat used in the hit was the same boat he bought. why would you murder someone on your family boat and risk the FBI to do any blood tests later and reveal the boat was the scene of a crime. It would more likely to assume Tony rented a boat for the hit and cleaned it up. As for the reference to buying a new boat scene with his family....the fact that he was in the market would make it easier for pussy to board the boat without suspicion.


                As for the witness protection

                Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                Pussy is also said to have gone into witness protection by other charcters whenever he is referenced, even in situatons where its just the mob guys who know what "really" happened have no need to lie to each other. He does leave his wife behind. But it does makes sense that if he did finally decide to do his time and enter the program, he would leave her behind, because they were having major domestic issues (they constantly fight, and she even tells Carmella that she is planning on filing for divorce).

                Does anyone recall a scene from S3 on where a character other than Tony directly references that Pussy is dead? Not "gone away" or "disappeared", but DEAD? I will be watching closely for this.
                why would monsters ever make mention out loud to a dead man they killed? there have been many instances were a hand gesture was used as a gun to reference pussys death. Paulie even mentioned it in a later episode when they were piecing together the timeline to pussy flipping. In the episode where bobby is forced to play santa and Paulie meets Tony on the boardwalk he even says that he would kill him again if he could.

                good thread warner

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                • EmpireWF
                  Giants in the Super Bowl
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 24082

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Maynard

                  As for the witness protection



                  why would monsters ever make mention out loud to a dead man they killed? there have been many instances were a hand gesture was used as a gun to reference pussys death. Paulie even mentioned it in a later episode when they were piecing together the timeline to pussy flipping. In the episode where bobby is forced to play santa and Paulie meets Tony on the boardwalk he even says that he would kill him again if he could.

                  good thread warner
                  I love the Freudian slip.


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                  • wr50l
                    Glen & CJ are secret Huns
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 4114

                    #10
                    Maynard

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                    • Maynard
                      stupid ass titles
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 17875

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EmpireWF
                      I love the Freudian slip.
                      the B is right next to the N....lol

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                      • Matt
                        No longer a noob
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1565

                        #12
                        Season 4...Episode 5.... Like what I've watched so far. Went through a stretch of slow episodes but things should be picking up with Feds trying to flip Adriana.

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