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[NAHSTE]

well make up your mind would i be in the minority on it or not.

The minority of all society? No, a lot of society likes that movie. Then again, a lot of society is dumb, as I've provided examples for. Most of VSN agrees it's a piece of shit though.

[nflman2033]

The minority of all society? No, a lot of society likes that movie. Then again, a lot of society is dumb, as I've provided examples for. Most of VSN agrees it's a piece of shit though.

I guess the issue is to define conventional Wisdom. I am not sure it really applies when talking about movies. Is it critical opinion, is it opinion of the general movie goer. Or is is just a flat fucking opinion.

How is VSN(D) considered to be a reputable source to determine if a movie is good or not.

outside of a few posters most people haven't seen nearly the amount of movies I have, let alone enough to be deemed a critic, which even I couldn't claim

[BrntO4Life]

nflman,

Requiem for a Dream is largely considered to be a "fantastic" film by most first-year film students. Most first-year film students are idiots. Luckily, most first-year film students realize this mistake by the time they're third-year (if not second-year) film students.

You find the same movie to be fantastic, only you are farther down the timeline than most first-year film students. You would be a twenty-fifth year film student by now. Your opinion, therefore, is considerably more terrible.

Math solves everything.

[nflman2033]

nflman,

Requiem for a Dream is largely considered to be a "fantastic" film by most first-year film students. Most first-year film students are idiots. Luckily, most first-year film students realize this mistake by the time they're third-year (if not second-year) film students.

You find the same movie to be fantastic, only you are farther down the timeline than most first-year film students. You would be a twenty-fifth year film student by now. Your opinion, therefore, is considerably more terrible.

Math solves everything.

So then enlighten me on what these 2nd and 3rd year students think, why is it terrible, and tell me what movies they think I should be watching?

[NAHSTE]

So then enlighten me on what these 2nd and 3rd year students think, why is it terrible, and tell me what movies they think I should be watching?

-over stylized (relies too much on the "trademark Aranofsky" quick-cut editing, mainly)
-pretentious tone
-lack of a narrative arc
-lack of dramatic tension
-unlikable characters
-not very entertaining
-overly simplistic "message" which is ham-handed and forced
-relies on shock tactics rather than nuance



Only redeemable moment of that movie is this line:


"ASS TO ASS!"

[BrntO4Life]

So then enlighten me on what these 2nd and 3rd year students think, why is it terrible, and tell me what movies they think I should be watching?

NAHSTE pretty much nails it. It's a superficial film which buries any opportunity for a real discussion on drug addiction under using one song, a bunch of Steadycam shots of the characters running around and freaking out, and boring ass scenes with Shooter McGavin talking to an old lady through the television.

Essentially, Aronofsky made a 101-minute anti-drug PSA. The DP should be lauded for making the film cool-looking, but without the pretty shots it's useless.

And, I don't know what movies 2nd and 3rd-year film students think you should be watching. I just know this one sucks.

[nflman2033]

Over stylized (relies too much on the "trademark Aranofsky" quick-cut editing, mainly)

pretentious tone
lack of a narrative arc
lack of dramatic tension
unlikeable characters
not very entertaining
overly simplistic "message" which is ham-handed and forced

Pretentious tone - wow watch a Bergman, Fellini or Tarkovsky film

Lack of a Narrative arc - disagree

Lack of dramatic tension - disagree

Unlikable characters - so all movies have to have a hero or likable character? that's new

not very entertaining - that's completely subjective

overly simplistic "message" - then obviously you only took main theme at its word and didn't bother to look for anything else.

[nflman2033]

And, I don't know what movies 2nd and 3rd-year film students think you should be watching. I just know this one sucks.

so you are not a 2nd or 3rd year film student, so how do you know that 1st year film students love the film and then they change their opinion.

[BrntO4Life]

overly simplistic "message" - then obviously you only took main theme at its word and didn't bother to look for anything else.

In your intense study of Aronofsky's 2001 film, Requiem for a Dream, what themes, motifs, or symbolism did you find buried under the anti-drug message that could point to a different overall position on the matter?

Please make your answer a minimum of two pages and no more than four.

[BrntO4Life]

so you are not a 2nd or 3rd year film student, so how do you know that 1st year film students love the film and then they change their opinion.

I was a 1st-year, 2nd-year, and 3rd-year film student once. I'm no longer a student.

I AM A MASTER.

[NAHSTE]

Pretentious tone - wow watch a Bergman, Fellini or Tarkovsky film

Lack of a Narrative arc - disagree

Lack of dramatic tension - disagree

Unlikable characters - so all movies have to have a hero or likable character? that's new

not very entertaining - that's completely subjective

overly simplistic "message" - then obviously you only took main theme at its word and didn't bother to look for anything else.

Wow, strong one word rebuttals for my chief complaints.

[Palooza]

Wow, strong one word rebuttals for my chief complaints.

disagree.

[Derrville]

I only made it like 15 minutes until I turned it off. Big red flag when Marlon Wayans is in a movie I'm suppose to be taking seriously.

Dude can act. Dont punish him because hes best known as a goofy comedian, Give him a chance.

and this :pokeball: sucks. Red should be on top.

[Warner2BruceTD]

It all makes sense to me now, go about your business enjoying horrible movies and hating great movies. its like this when you are agreeing with W2BTD on movies then you know you are in the wrong, that guy has got one of the worst taste in movies on this board.

I would like to defend myself here.

A lot of you guys say I have bad taste in movies. I disagree with this (obviously), but I will explain why.

I would say that a person with bad taste in movies would be somebody who likes a lot of shitty movies.

Here's the thing, I don't like shitty movies. In fact, I don't like many movies at all, period.

I don't have bad taste, I have incredibly picky taste. I am a curmudgeon when it comes to movies, I dislike probably 80% of the movies I see. When you break it down that way, I actually have better taste than the rest of you schmucks, because you fools like any and all sorts of shit.

[Houston]

A story about a guy with "anterograde amnesia" trying to solve a murder mystery. And a film with two different timelines heading in two separate yet same destinations. Yeah this is a recipe for disaster that very few could pull off, fortunately Nolan is one of them.

I'm not gonna get into details or certain scenes because I'll confuse myself. My favorite thing about the movie though, is the cat and mouse like game that the audience plays with the main character. In half of the story he's fumbling around clueless as we at least think we know whats going on. And in the other, he's the one holding all the answers to questions we didn't even know we had. To make it even better, these two halves are constantly intercepting each other for control of the movie.


I'll say it again, Memento is like this era's version of "Vertigo" except somehow taken to another level. Shame how many people haven't seen it.




Nolan ranking:
1. Memento
2. Following