Manny and Ortiz failed 2003 Drug Test

[Senser81]

The fuck are you talking about? I highly doubt Brett Favre will have a lot to say about Eric Mangini at his Hall of Fame induction...

I guess we interpreted the story differently. I read it verbatim...House became Rangers pitching coach in 1985, four years before Ryan threw a single pitch for Texas, and during this incorrect timeperiod House became "notable" for his work with Nolan Ryan. Meaning, he became "notable" to the public, not "notable" to Nolan Ryan personally. I don't remember Tom House busting onto the scene because of his work with Nolan Ryan. As I said before, which you were too dense to understand, House had been the pitching coach with Texas for 4 years before Ryan was on the team, and Ryan's performance did NOT dramatically improve once he came under House's tutelage. He was a HOFer before he went to the Rangers.

Yeah, what a ridiculous story. What an idiot I am.

Yes, you actually deleted the part of the story that I was referring to, so you are an idiot.

You don't think a pitching coach for a team littered with steroid users wouldn't tell his aging veteran pitcher to at least try them out when he himself tried them out years earlier?

Is that really THAT wild of a story?

If thats your only proof, then yes. It isn't any different than saying Charlie Hough was on steroids, because he was an aging pitcher on the Rangers.

[Liquidrob]

I find it funny when everyone was ripping Bonds back at MM and a couple of us were saying that many players were doing it and mentioned guys like Big Papi and all the fan boys would say

'No way! look at him, he doesnt use roids!'

[RosettaStoned]

Tailback, get me some steroids. Thanks.

[Senser81]

I find it funny when everyone was ripping Bonds back at MM and a couple of us were saying that many players were doing it and mentioned guys like Big Papi and all the fan boys would say

'No way! look at him, he doesnt use roids!'

Dude, I was one of the 'Pro-Papi' guys. I thought he was just a big guy who could hit with power...he was really good but it wasn't like he was putting up 'Bondsian' numbers.

Although now I'm not surprised he was on roids in 2003, because you can see how much he sucks now without steroids.

[Tailback U]

Tailback, get me some steroids. Thanks.

You don't need roids man, you just need stevia.

[FedEx227]

Dude, I was one of the 'Pro-Papi' guys. I thought he was just a big guy who could hit with power...he was really good but it wasn't like he was putting up 'Bondsian' numbers.

Although now I'm not surprised he was on roids in 2003, because you can see how much he sucks now without steroids.

Plus there were logical arguments that could have been made for Papi.

He went from the Twins where they sorta frown on free-swinging guys and asked him not to just be a raw power hitter and his numbers reflected that. Decent power numbers, not staggering strikeout rates. Then he goes to Boston his strikeout rate went up like crazy as did his power numbers. So it was an almost defensible rise in power numbers.

[mcstl25]

As a Barry Bonds fan I can't tell you how happy this shit makes me. I don't even know why, maybe it's because every single person I ever ran into hated Bonds with a passion and acted like their favorite players or other players were not taking anything.

Bout time these guys get their names released.

I am a huge Mark McGwire fan, so I share in your happiness. It was BS how McGwire, Bonds, and Sosa were treated back in the early 2000's.

I think MLB is going to get royally screwed over these names leaking out. If I took an "anonymous" test and my results were later leaked, I would be suing the hell out of the test administrator.

My question is, where are these reports actually coming from?

[Senser81]

I think MLB is going to get royally screwed over these names leaking out. If I took an "anonymous" test and my results were later leaked, I would be suing the hell out of the test administrator.

My question is, where are these reports actually coming from?

Pedro Gomez

[Whatupdoe44]

who cares, everyone seems to be doing it at the time

GET OVER IT