The Most Overrated Pitcher And Hitter

[SethMode]

I don't see how Derek Jeter is overrated. I've said before: he's that guy that every non Yankee fan hates but would have a constant chubby for if he played for their favorite team.

As for Hamels, how is he overrated? He has been SLAMMED in the last year, ESPECIALLY in Philly. He had a great WS and thanks to the 12 billion Comcast commercials he did (or maybe the 2 that he did that I saw 12 billion times here in Philly) had a shittastic year last year. I don't know how he could be considered overrated.

[SuperKevin]

Ryan Howard is my most overrated hitter but I might be biased by my Phillies hate and my not being impressed by home run hitters.

K-Rod is my most overrated pitcher. Who cares about the saves. I haven't seen a guy turn so many 3 run save opportunities into 1 run games in my life

[SethMode]

Ryan Howard is my most overrated hitter but I might be biased by my Phillies hate and my not being impressed by home run hitters.

K-Rod is my most overrated pitcher. Who cares about the saves. I haven't seen a guy turn so many 3 run save opportunities into 1 run games in my life

Those are both good picks, and I am a huge Ryan Howard lover. Last season he made tremendous strides with his clutch hitting for me, but he is still a strike out machine and still looks like Pedro Cerrano when someone throws him a breaking ball.

I just despise everything about K-Rod. Him now playing for the Mets certainly doesn't help his case.

[Senser81]

Yeah, Jeter is definitely overrated as a fielder (and even then, he has made a marked improvement in his D over the last couple of years), but as a hitter you would be hard pressed to find anyone better at his position. The guy has lead all AL shortstops in VORP for three out of the last four years (he finished second in 2008 behind Johnny Peralta).

Nice back-handed compliment!!

VORP >>> UZI

[FedEx227]

Nice back-handed compliment!!

VORP >>> UZI

What?

[Senser81]

What?

????

The thread title is 'most overrated pitcher and hitter', and Lefty34 had to get in his "Jeter is a worse fielder than Adam Dunn" swipe. He then went on to compliment Jeter's hitting.

Thus, back-handed compliment.

:confused:

[FedEx227]

????

The thread title is 'most overrated pitcher and hitter', and Lefty34 had to get in his "Jeter is a worse fielder than Adam Dunn" swipe. He then went on to compliment Jeter's hitting.

Thus, back-handed compliment.

:confused:

Except he said: Jeter is definitely overrated as a fielder (and even then, he has made a marked improvement in his D over the last couple of years)

Which I don't believe includes anything about "worse fielder than Adam Dunn".

Overrated =/= terrible

And nothing screams back-handed compliment or worse than Adam Dunn like: "he has made a marked improvement in his D over the last couple of years"

[Senser81]

Except he said: Jeter is definitely overrated as a fielder (and even then, he has made a marked improvement in his D over the last couple of years)

Which I don't believe includes anything about "worse fielder than Adam Dunn".

Overrated =/= terrible

And nothing screams back-handed compliment or worse than Adam Dunn like: "he has made a marked improvement in his D over the last couple of years"

And nothing screams back-handed compliment like "Jeter is definitely overrated as a fielder, but not as a hitter" in a thread titled "the Most Overrated Pitcher and Hitter"!

Do you know what a back-handed compliment is? Since its possible that you don't, here is another example:

"Sorry, even Black Sheep could have followed that logic...even YOU can't be this retarded."

[Senser81]

Context, ftw.

Its still a back-handed compliment, no? Context had already been taken into account. :five:

[Senser81]

No, context wasn't taken into account, as my original statement was in response to someone trying to separate or distinguish what aspect of Jeter's game is overrated, as simply saying that Jeter is overrated doesn't tell enough of the story. My statement, then, distinguished which aspect of his game is overrated, but then went on to talk about how great of a hitter he is, which is what the thread is supposed to be about.

:beatup:

[StealthShot]

I like how people in this thread are still saying Jeter is overrated but they say. "He's an overrated defender, not hitter" then you have people saying "He's and overrated hitter not defender." So with those two statements being bantered back and fourth it has come to my scientific conclusion that Derek Jeter is not OVERRATED.

[NAHSTE]

were talking about overrrated. and jeter is treated like a god. not saying hes bad, just overrated

His fielding is overrated. As a hitter he's the most essential player in the Yankees lineup, and has been for 5 championship teams.

Jeter is overrated as an overall player, but properly rated as a hitter IMO.

[West]

I feel like Grady Sizemore is pretty overrated. Don't get me wrong, I dont have anything against the guy. Albeit he hits homeruns, but he doesn't put up the kind of numbers you expect to see in a lead off hitter.

Also Barry Zito is overrated IMO, its like he gets worse every year

[NAHSTE]

Overrated hitter: Gayvid Wright

Overrated Pitcher: LOL Hamels

[chazmaniandevil]

Also Barry Zito is overrated IMO, its like he gets worse every year

is this a joke? how is he overrated? nobody likes him, everybody knows he sucks

if anything hes better than people give him credit for

last year players batter .250 against him, had a 4.0 ERA, had a 1.35 whip

and yet people dog on him all the time (and deservedly so) for his contract

but as bad as people make him out to be, id consider him a little underrated