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  • Chrispy
    Needs a hobby
    • Dec 2008
    • 11403

    The market for starters

    With the Cliff Lee sweepstakes over, what do the Philadelphia Phillies, New York Mets, Los Angeles Dodgers and Chicago White Sox do if they want a starting pitcher?

    The Cleveland Indians may have two right-handers available this month in Jake Westbrook and Fausto Carmona, though the club said this week they are not simply looking to dump salary. Carmona could be a fit for clubs not willing to rent a player, since he’s signed at a reasonable rate through 2011.

    The Chicago Cubs are probably going to field calls on left-hander Ted Lilly, if they haven’t already, and they might be looking to find a taker for right-hander Carlos Zambrano — good luck, Jim Hendry.

    The Mets, however, specifically desire a front line arm, which means if they can’t land Lee, they have to turn to Roy Oswalt and Dan Haren, both of whom are guaranteed money after this season. Haren might cost more in trade than the Mets are willing to give up, however, especially considering their farm system isn’t considered deep.

    Houston’s Brett Myers and Baltimore’s Jeremy Guthrie may be two right-handers that end up elsewhere this month, and may be more realistic for clubs such as the Dodgers and White Sox, while the Phillies are also scouting Oakland’s Ben Sheets


    I hope the Yanks get another starter, Andy is hurt for 4-5 weeks, Burnett has been awful and u don't know what Javy is going to do.
  • FedEx227
    Delivers
    • Mar 2009
    • 10454

    #2
    Oswalt got hurt too, doesn't look too terrible but it's still early.
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    • Senser81
      VSN Poster of the Year
      • Feb 2009
      • 12804

      #3
      I don't understand the mentality in baseball that its ok to unload a good starting pitcher just because you are having a bad season. Like the Cubs with Lilly...why would they want to get rid of the guy? He is a good pitcher and very reliable. Just hold on to him and maybe the team will do better next year.

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      • FedEx227
        Delivers
        • Mar 2009
        • 10454

        #4
        I guess the idea is in say the Astros case, the reward of keeping Oswalt is minimal as the team doesn't look like it will compete for the next few years. So you attempt to trade them at peak value for something in the future.

        The Cubs it's tough to say, I don't think they'll be quite as bad next year, but if you can get a decent package for Lilly, guys that can potential help you out down the line it may be worth it to kinda fold on this year and possibly next and worry about 2-3 years down the line.
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        • Chrispy
          Needs a hobby
          • Dec 2008
          • 11403

          #5
          Originally posted by Senser81
          I don't understand the mentality in baseball that its ok to unload a good starting pitcher just because you are having a bad season. Like the Cubs with Lilly...why would they want to get rid of the guy? He is a good pitcher and very reliable. Just hold on to him and maybe the team will do better next year.
          For Lilly, im pretty sure he is in his last year of his contract so the Cubs want to get something for him in case he would leave during the offseason. The cubs are pretty much out of it this year also.

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          • FedEx227
            Delivers
            • Mar 2009
            • 10454

            #6
            That's true, I thought Lilly had one more year, he's done after this.

            So yeah, basically no reason not to explore every potential avenue to get value for him.
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            • LC AAU
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 14217

              #7
              Yeah Lilly is in the last year of his deal so if we don't win both series against the Astros and Cardinals this week he's gone.
              sig is too big, resize it

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              • Senser81
                VSN Poster of the Year
                • Feb 2009
                • 12804

                #8
                Originally posted by cpollack09
                For Lilly, im pretty sure he is in his last year of his contract so the Cubs want to get something for him in case he would leave during the offseason. The cubs are pretty much out of it this year also.
                But why not try to re-sign Lilly?

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                • Chrispy
                  Needs a hobby
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 11403

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Senser81
                  But why not try to re-sign Lilly?
                  I guess they just want to get something for him, rather than have him leave in the offseason and get nothing.

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                  • Senser81
                    VSN Poster of the Year
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12804

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cpollack09
                    I guess they just want to get something for him, rather than have him leave in the offseason and get nothing.
                    I would guess they aren't going to get much for him, and if they get "prospects" in exchange for Lilly they are basically getting nothing.

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