Oswalt to PHI: Waiting For Oswalt's Approval

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  • Blade
    Walking SAM site
    • Feb 2009
    • 3739

    #16
    Yep just got the tweet for it, let's see....

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    • Rudi
      #CyCueto
      • Nov 2008
      • 9905

      #17
      Man fuck that the rich just get richer in baseball year after year.

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      • mobbdeep1122
        I just win
        • May 2009
        • 1549

        #18
        Hearing Oswalt and $11 mil for Happ, Gose and either Worley or Mathieson. Either way, it's a good trade for the Phillies. Especially since the Phillies don't have to pick up the 2012 option. They'll essentially be getting Oswalt for the rest of this season and 2011 for $12 mil. Not bad at all.

        If this is how it goes down, props to Amaro for trying to rectify the disaster that was trading Cliff Lee. This doesn't completely make up for it, but it's a big step in the right direction.

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        • Blade
          Walking SAM site
          • Feb 2009
          • 3739

          #19
          It's official:

          Oswalt and Cash for Happ, Gose and Villar......I think Rube just held them up. Nice to have Ed Wade on the other side of these dumbass deals that he used to pull for the Phils.

          I hope stayin in Philly changes Oswalt's mind about the town and stadium.

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          • Blade
            Walking SAM site
            • Feb 2009
            • 3739

            #20
            Originally posted by mobbdeep1122
            If this is how it goes down, props to Amaro for trying to rectify the disaster that was trading Cliff Lee. This doesn't completely make up for it, but it's a big step in the right direction.
            I don't think it was a complete disaster. The way the Phils offense had sputtered, no one thought that would happen. No one saw these injuries piling up either. If neither of those 2 went down, no one would car including you.

            Are the prospects that good, who knows yet. From what I hear a couple of them are looking better lately.

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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              #21
              I don't see the Lee trade as a diaster at all.

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              • Chrispy
                Needs a hobby
                • Dec 2008
                • 11403

                #22
                Source: Oswalt officially OKs trade to Philly

                Roy Oswalt has officially accepted his proposed trade to the Phillies, a baseball source familiar with the discussions said Thursday.

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                • mobbdeep1122
                  I just win
                  • May 2009
                  • 1549

                  #23
                  The Phils trading Cliff Lee was a down right disaster. You have a guy like Lee under you control for $8 mil and you give him away for practically nothing? It was a terrible move. Especially when you give Blanton a 3 year/$24 mil deal during the same offseason.

                  I know hindsight is 20/20, and I understand why Amaro made the move, but the bottom line is: The move for Oswalt is pretty much admitting trading Lee was a mistake.

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                  • Warner2BruceTD
                    2011 Poster Of The Year
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 26142

                    #24
                    Originally posted by mobbdeep1122
                    The Phils trading Cliff Lee was a down right disaster. You have a guy like Lee under you control for $8 mil and you give him away for practically nothing? It was a terrible move. Especially when you give Blanton a 3 year/$24 mil deal during the same offseason.

                    I know hindsight is 20/20, and I understand why Amaro made the move, but the bottom line is: The move for Oswalt is pretty much admitting trading Lee was a mistake.
                    You got Roy Halladay for Lee. Not quite "practically nothing". Halladay is better. Plus, you may end up gettikng Lee back anyway.

                    Aquiring Oswalt isn't admitting moving Lee was a mistake, its a great deal that greatly improves the Phillies WS hopes.

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                    • mobbdeep1122
                      I just win
                      • May 2009
                      • 1549

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                      You got Roy Halladay for Lee. Not quite "practically nothing". Halladay is better. Plus, you may end up gettikng Lee back anyway.

                      Aquiring Oswalt isn't admitting moving Lee was a mistake, its a great deal that greatly improves the Phillies WS hopes.
                      The Phillies could have had both. They didn't trade Lee to be able to acquire Halladay. The money wasn't an issue, it was about prospects, which I understand. That's why they traded Lee.

                      If they would have held on to Lee and let him walk after this season, they would have received 2 first round picks (they'll also receive 2 first round picks if Werth walks), that would have been more than enough to replenish the farm system. At worst it would have been better than the slop we got in return.

                      I don't think the Phils have any chance to get Lee back after this season. I read his preference is the Yankees or Phillies, but the Phillies won't give Lee the years or the money he's looking for (which is another reason why they dealt him in the first place). But, Halladay, Lee and Hamels for one season together would have been amazing, plus knowing you'll be getting 4 first round picks after 2010 (assuming Lee and Werth would have left, which is almost a guarantee with Dom Brown waiting in the wings).

                      If the Phils held on to Lee, Oswalt never comes to Philly.

                      But I do agree the Oswalt deal was a great move. He's not Cliff Lee, but he's still a good pitcher and will help us make a run in the 2nd half.

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                      • NAHSTE
                        Probably owns the site
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 22233

                        #26
                        Oswalt's ERA vs. Atlanta the last 3 years? 18.00.

                        Welcome to the NL East.

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                        • Blade
                          Walking SAM site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 3739

                          #27
                          ^ Ehhhh...........you guys are this year's Mets. You are not makin to the post season anyway. The Giants will take the Wildcard. Phils, Pads and Cards take the divisions.

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                          • Hasselbeck
                            Jus' bout dat action boss
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 6175

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                            You got Roy Halladay for Lee. Not quite "practically nothing". Halladay is better. Plus, you may end up gettikng Lee back anyway.

                            Aquiring Oswalt isn't admitting moving Lee was a mistake, its a great deal that greatly improves the Phillies WS hopes.
                            I would argue at this point that Lee (especially in a contract year) is better than Halladay.

                            And the Phillies could have easily had both of them. That would have been the best 1-2 pitching duo in the majors since Unit-Schilling on the D'Backs.

                            I think Philly easily wins the pennant with those two, and quite possibly the World Series.

                            Oswalt is no slouch either, but Cliff Lee is much better than him. Hell I'm not sure the Phillies are a better team than Atlanta even with Oswalt.

                            I understand why they did it, but seriously.. the logic behind this move shows trading Lee was an epic fail on their part.
                            Originally posted by ram29jackson
                            I already said months ago that Seattle wasn't winning any SB

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                            • FedEx227
                              Delivers
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 10454

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hasselbeck
                              I would argue at this point that Lee (especially in a contract year) is better than Halladay.
                              Its tough to say. Lee has been more dominant (striking out more, far less on base) but Halladay has given up fewer runs thus far.

                              Lee: 2.40 ERA, .892 WHIP, 16.29 K/BB, 175 ERA+
                              Halladay: 2.21 ERA, 1.023 WHIP, 7.45 K/BB, 188 ERA+
                              VoicesofWrestling.com

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                              • NAHSTE
                                Probably owns the site
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 22233

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Blade
                                ^ Ehhhh...........you guys are this year's Mets. You are not makin to the post season anyway. The Giants will take the Wildcard. Phils, Pads and Cards take the divisions.
                                What's not to like about the Braves? Best record in the NL East...Best bench in the NL East...Best staff in the NL East...Best manager...Best closer...Best farm system...Don't ever compare us to the fucking Mets.

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