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  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    ESPNinsider: Why Justin Upton is on the trading block

    Why would the D-Backs entertain dealing Justin Upton? Here's four good reasons.
    By Keith Law

    The Diamondbacks turned the hot stove upside down this week with word that they'd consider trading Justin Upton for the right deal, and I have since spoken with several senior executives from other clubs who indicated that the price is probably high but he is indeed available.

    Upton will start 2011 as a 23-year-old and is signed to a deal that owes him $49.5 million for the next five years, with a limited no-trade clause that includes four teams. He was a deserving All-Star in 2009, before tiring badly in September, but lost some power in 2010 and seemed to catch the swing-and-miss malaise that infected the entire Arizona roster (although he improved his walk rate over 2009). He's an above-average defender in right field with a strong arm, and I think it's possible he could return to center field if he's traded, since he was moved to right to accommodate Chris Young and not through any failing of his own.

    So why would Arizona GM Kevin Towers want to deal a franchise player who's locked up to a reasonable deal? Let's consider some factors:

    1. He doubts Upton's on-field potential. This seems unlikely, as Towers is a former scout who values tools and Upton is a hardware store who was a No. 1 overall pick. He also posted a .388 on-base average in his age-21 season (2009). In the last 50 years, the only other players who've posted a .350/.500 OBP/SLG line at 21 or younger, as Upton did that year, are Albert Pujols, Alex Rodriguez, Miguel Cabrera, Ken Griffey Jr. and Cesar Cedeno. Rodriguez even followed up that year with a more severe dropoff than Upton saw in 2010. There are no guarantees, even with players of Upton's talent, but you don't walk away from that kind of skill set and performance cavalierly.

    2. He doubts Upton's makeup. Most of the bad makeup reports about the younger Upton appear to stem from his brother's reputation, although I know there were some concerns about Justin's responsiveness to coaching in the spring of 2009, when he showed up with an altered swing that he didn't correct until a week into the season. He's not Milton Bradley, though, and if he's Gary Sheffield, well, that one worked out OK.

    3. He questions Upton's ability to stay healthy. Upton has had problems with his left shoulder in each of the last two years, nothing major but perhaps enough to convince Towers and his staff that there's an underlying issue. I imagine any potential trade partner would want to do extra due diligence on Upton for that reason.

    4. He wants to win in 2011 and can't do it without trading Upton.
    In other words, Towers, who is on a two-year contract, figures he can trade the long-term potential of Upton for players with shorter-time horizons (fewer years to free agency for more guaranteed immediate performance). Given how available Upton appears to be, this seems like it must be at least part of the motivation, as there is no good long-term rationale (that we know of as outsiders) for trading Upton when he has yet to reach his peak and is signed to a reasonable deal that will be cheap if he hits his ceiling.

    I imagine it's a lot of No. 4, given Towers' short window and public statements about making the team competitive in 2011, and some of Nos. 1 or 3, too. But even if he is skeptical about Upton, other GMs won't be. Players of Upton's talent rarely come on the market before free agency, at which point many clubs are priced out, and a trade now represents a rare opportunity for a team to acquire a potential star early in his ascent.

    Based on those conversations with rival executives, I think Towers will ask for at least two players with major league experience, who can help the Diamondbacks in 2011, plus two others from the other team's farm system. It's a high price, but if you believe, as I do, that Upton will be one of the best players in the game by the time he's 26 or 27, it's justified.
  • NAHSTE
    Probably owns the site
    • Feb 2009
    • 22233

    #2
    I'd love it if the Braves could swing a deal for Upton, we'd have the best tools in any outfield for the next 10 years.

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    • FedEx227
      Delivers
      • Mar 2009
      • 10454

      #3
      I think he definitely played over his head last year, but he's still a very valuable piece to a team. He's essentially a slightly better version of his brother. I don't think he's ever going to reach the A-Rod, Pujols, Cabrera or Griffey again.
      VoicesofWrestling.com

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #4
        Originally posted by FedEx227
        I think he definitely played over his head last year, but he's still a very valuable piece to a team. He's essentially a slightly better version of his brother. I don't think he's ever going to reach the A-Rod, Pujols, Heyward, Cabrera or Griffey again.
        Forgot someone.

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        • FedEx227
          Delivers
          • Mar 2009
          • 10454

          #5
          Cesar Cedeno is a legend all his own.
          VoicesofWrestling.com

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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26141

            #6
            Hey now, Cedeno was a useful player. Do not disrespect Ceasar f'n Cedeno.

            Yankees supposedly offered Joba, Gardner, and Nova. I personally believe Joba is ruined. Gardner is a nice player, but Nova is a non entity. I guess it depends how you feel about Joba. Its ptretty clear Girardi doesn't trust him anymore.

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            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #7
              Gardner is more than a nice player, IMO. He's a great piece on any team. He can fly, he knows how to get on base, and he plays great defense.

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              • Warner2BruceTD
                2011 Poster Of The Year
                • Mar 2009
                • 26141

                #8
                So would you do it?

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                • FedEx227
                  Delivers
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 10454

                  #9
                  I probably wouldn't.

                  I don't like Joba and Gardner while pretty good is not much different than Upton and 26 years old.
                  VoicesofWrestling.com

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                  • EmpireWF
                    Giants in the Super Bowl
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 24082

                    #10
                    Supposedly, Arizona is requesting a package of 4 or 5 players for Upton. Crazy asking price for Upton coming off this season.


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                    • NAHSTE
                      Probably owns the site
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 22233

                      #11
                      Originally posted by EmpireWF
                      Supposedly, Arizona is requesting a package of 4 or 5 players for Upton. Crazy asking price for Upton coming off this season.
                      I agree that's a high asking price, but we're talking about a young potential star who's locked up for five more years. With the right team, he could explode.

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                      • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                        Highwayman
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 15428

                        #12
                        Marlins, I recall were throwing out Nolasco + young player + farm depth...Stanton, LoMo, and Gaby were not available.

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                        • NAHSTE
                          Probably owns the site
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 22233

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                          Marlins, I recall were throwing out Nolasco + young player + farm depth...Stanton, LoMo, and Gaby were not available.
                          Can't wait until 2013, when the Fish flip him for Jordan Schafer and Brandon Beachy.

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                          • Chrispy
                            Needs a hobby
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 11403

                            #14
                            Doubt he gets traded with the package they are looking for.

                            The Yanks really ruined Joba, maybe a change of scenery would help him, Nova is an ok starter and Gardner showed what he can do last year, he hits for average and crates havoc on the bases and is good in the outfield, i like him at the end of our order.

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                            • DJ Rhude
                              #42 G.O.A.T.
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 4359

                              #15
                              Gardner can fly and is a disruptive force on the basepaths but my son will be better hitter than him by the time he is 10 years old.....he's a solid fielder but also has a very average arm......props to the Yankees though, they did an excellent job of hyping him up like he's the second coming of Rickey Henderson....dude does bust his ass out there tho, have to prop him for that

                              Joba, we fucked him up for good with the Joba rules and is he a starter or a reliever yo-yo job....also I believe that shoulder injury fucked him up, he lost about 3-4 MPH off his fastball...if the kid rebounds and proves me wrong, more power to him

                              Nova, I don't really know what we have with him except that he throws hard but I didn't see much movement on his heater....he also has a pretty good curve....he had such a short audition in the bigs really hard to say what kind of pitcher he will become

                              I guess I said all that to say, I'd be ecstatic if that's all it took to get Upton

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