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[Leftwich]

LF- Stan Musial
CF- Mickey Mantle
RF- Hank Aaron
SS- Cal Ripken Jr
3B- Brooks Robinson
2B- Jackie Robinson
1B- Albert Pujols
C- Johnny Bench
RHP- Jim Palmer
LHP- Warren Spahn

Suck it.

[FirstTimer]

I had this discussion with my dad and his friends on my trip to Boston last weekend. They made the rules. Most of them had seen all those players play. I just carried over the same rules. Ruth and Gehrig are not eligible because they played before 1930.

That's retarded.

Gehrig's best seasons were post 1930. He played until 1939.

Your dad and his friends need to quit discussing baseball.

Ruth, yeah he was on the downside by the 1930's but why in holy hell was 1930 made the cutoff date? It's incredibly arbitrary. I would have thought a more sensible cut off would have been the dead ball era(1920ish)

Saying the game was "much different" prior to 1930 is a real odd ball statement when looking at the history of the game and the type of baseball played acorss the era's.

[Irish]

That was the rule Firsttimer. We all know Gehrig played his best ball post 1930. We all know Gehrig would start at 1st base.

80s baseball and 90s baseball are two different games, that is not the reason why 1930 was the cut off. It just was a date we through out while discussing. Simple as that. This isn't a game about build the all time best team. This is a build the best team post 1930.

[killgod]

That's retarded.

Gehrig's best seasons were post 1930. He played until 1939.

Your dad and his friends need to quit discussing baseball.

Ruth, yeah he was on the downside by the 1930's but why in holy hell was 1930 made the cutoff date? It's incredibly arbitrary. I would have thought a more sensible cut off would have been the dead ball era(1920ish)

Saying the game was "much different" prior to 1930 is a real odd ball statement when looking at the history of the game and the type of baseball played acorss the era's.

Stop shitting on this guys thread. Jesus fucking christ.

[Irish]

It is not like we had no clue about baseball players before 1930. We know guys like Ruth, Cobb, Wagner and etc. are great players and would make everybodies teams. They are some of the greatest to ever play the game of baseball. It is not like we didn't appreciate the history and the impact these guys made. It was just a discussion to keep things more recent. It is no different than if I made the cut off at 1990. Like I said it not an all time greatest team thread.

[Irish]

Mantle - 2415 hits, 536 home runs, .298 average. 3 time MVP. 18 seasons

Mays - 3283 hits, 660 home runs, .302 average. 2 time MVP. 22 seasons.

[FirstTimer]

That was the rule Firsttimer. We all know Gehrig played his best ball post 1930. We all know Gehrig would start at 1st base.

80s baseball and 90s baseball are two different games, that is not the reason why 1930 was the cut off. It just was a date we through out while discussing. Simple as that. This isn't a game about build the all time best team. This is a build the best team post 1930.

Then what's the rationalization for "baseball being very different" before 1930?

What was so different pre 1930 as opposed to pre 1940? Pre 1950? Pre 1960?

Stop shitting on this guys thread. Jesus fucking christ.

:yell:


C-Gaby Hartnett
1B: Gehrig
2B: Roger Hornsby
3B: Fred Baker
SS: Honus Wagner
LF: Joe Jackson
CF: Ty Cobb
RF: Ruth

LHP: Lefty Grove
RHP: Old Hoss Radbourn

[FirstTimer]

It is not like we had no clue about baseball players before 1930. We know guys like Ruth, Cobb, Wagner and etc. are great players and would make everybodies teams. They are some of the greatest to ever play the game of baseball. It is not like we didn't appreciate the history and the impact these guys made. It was just a discussion to keep things more recent. It is no different than if I made the cut off at 1990. Like I said it not an all time greatest team thread.

Well thank God players from 1931 makes it more recent.

[Irish]

Then what's the rationalization for "baseball being very different" before 1930?

What was so different pre 1930 as opposed to pre 1940? Pre 1950? Pre 1960?

Because we agreed the cut off to be 1930. That is why.

[FirstTimer]

Because we agreed the cut off to be 1930. That is why.

That's not the reason you gave:

Baseball was a much different game back then.

[Irish]

That's not the reason you gave:

I did not think you would take it so literally. I figured you would just need a simple reason and move on. Not moan and moan about it and take away from the discussion.

[FirstTimer]

I did not think you would take it so literally. I figured you would just need a simple reason and move on. Not moan and moan about it and take away from the discussion.

1. How else was I supposed to take it? Figuratively?

2. Learn to VSN/D.

[NAHSTE]

I still want answers from Lan on why he chose Mantle over Mays and why Roberto Clemente is in over Aaron, Williams or Guerrero.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Mantle over Mays isn't crazy. Only knock on Mantle is the injuries. If he hadn't stepped in the drain pipe when he was 23 and fucked up his knee, he may have been the best ever.

[Sharkweather]

Mantle over Mays isn't crazy. Only knock on Mantle is the injuries. If he hadn't stepped in the drain pipe when he was 23 and fucked up his knee, he may have been the best ever.

Also crazy to think the numbers he would have had if he had played sober his entire career.