Looking back at the Adam Dunn signing...

[Senser81]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2010/12/03/bernstein-dunn-means-return-to-power/

Its funny to me how the media in Chicago have done a 180 on Adam Dunn. They were oblivious to Dunn's shortcomings, and also in denial that perhaps this might not work out as well as the media thought.

For example, self-proclaimed genius/radio host/moron Dan Bernstein made a huge miscalculation when it comes to forecasting. He would yell at callers (surprise) who expressed doubt about the Dunn signing, and would brush off any concerns about Dunn's poor fielding, poor contact hitting, the fact that he was switching leagues, the fact that he probably wasn't such a huge superstar, etc.

Here are some Bernstein gems from the article:

"Jim Thome returns, essentially, except nine years younger and with better baserunning skills." (This is an ironic one, because Bernstein was downplaying the value of Thome when the Sox let him go a couple years ago...and Thome played a huge role in lifting Minnesota over the Sox.)

"Even if Konerko goes elsewhere, there are capable players available to approximate the production one would reasonably expect from that position." (This isn't even the focus of the article, but its just another example of blowhard Bernstein throwing crap at the wall in the hopes of some piece of shit sticking.)

"Anybody panicking about Dunn’s high strikeout totals is an idiot."

"Some other all-time great sluggers to whom Dunn compares through age 30 via metric models: guys like Reggie Jackson, Harmon Killebrew, Sammy Sosa and Thome." (Typical Bernsie move...say something completely ludicrous under the cover of "metrics".)

"Just hide Dunn’s glove."



Dan Bernstein, who are you crappin?

[Blick]

I enjoyed the crap out of Bruce Chen blowing his 84 mph smoke right by that oaf yesterday.

[Rudi]

lol Dunn. Thank god I don't have to watch that bum anymore. Sat through 7 years of him shitting down his leg for the Reds, it was awful

[nflman2033]

lol Dunn. Thank god I don't have to watch that bum anymore. Sat through 7 years of him shitting down his leg for the Reds, it was awful

No doubt, anyone who is a fan of a team that Dunn is on will know how truly terrible he is.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Dunn was always a lightning rod in Cincy and I never understood why.

Dunn has been one of the top ten offensive players in the game over the last decade. High OBA, 40+ HR's, 100 RBI, 100 R, 100 BB's, what more do you want offensively?

It always baffled me how Reds fans were so supportive of Griffey, who was never in shape, always hurt, and never produced after his first year in 2000. I don't think I saw Griffey ever break into a full sprint for 8 years as a Red, the guy did nothing but loaf. Plus, his fat ass whined and cried when it was obvious he couldnt play CF anymore and they asked him to RF. And everyone still adores him. That trade was the biggest bust in Reds history.

And then you had Dunn, a home grown guy, producing .950 OPS and 40 HR's year after year, never missed a game, but everyone hated his guts. I just don't get it. Those Reds teams were bad because Griffey was a bum, and they had no pitching. Dunn was hardly the problem, in fact, he was probably the best player on the team (unless you want to argue for Harang during the two year stretch where he led the NL in W's and K's).

As far as Dunn this year, I have no clue whats going on. His OPS is almost .300 points lower than his career average. It's unexplainable, because he's a guy who always had "old man" skills (lots of BB's, bad defense, power), and those players decline slower than others. Something tells me it's just a prolonged slump. He's only 30, and guys with his profile usually stay productive until they push 40 (Thome, Killebrew, Konerko, etc)

[NAHSTE]

I am guilty of drinking the kool aid going into the year. I thought he was gonna mash at that stadium, so I reached on him a round or two early this year in our VSN fantasy draft. Pretty sure nobody thought it was a terrible pick either at the time, we all pretty much agreed he'd hit a ton of homers this year. And he's barely even hitting singles. It's kind of sad to watch him just totally suck.

[nflman2033]

Dunn was always a lightning rod in Cincy and I never understood why.

Dunn has been one of the top ten offensive players in the game over the last decade. High OBA, 40+ HR's, 100 RBI, 100 R, 100 BB's, what more do you want offensively?

It always baffled me how Reds fans were so supportive of Griffey, who was never in shape, always hurt, and never produced after his first year in 2000. I don't think I saw Griffey ever break into a full sprint for 8 years as a Red, the guy did nothing but loaf. Plus, his fat ass whined and cried when it was obvious he couldnt play CF anymore and they asked him to RF. And everyone still adores him. That trade was the biggest bust in Reds history.

And then you had Dunn, a home grown guy, producing .950 OPSu and 40 HR's year after year, never missed a game, but everyone hated his guts. I just don't get it. Those Reds teams were bad because Griffey was a bum, and they had no pitching. Dunn was hardly the problem, in fact, he was probably the best player on the team (unless you want to argue for Harang during the two year stretch where he led the NL in W's and K's).

As far as Dunn this year, I have no clue whats going on. His OPS is almost .300 points lower than his career average. It's unexplainable, because he's a guy who always had "old man" skills (lots of BB's, bad defense, power), and those players decline slower than others. Something tells me it's just a prolonged slump. He's only 30, and guys with his profile usually stay productive until they push 40 (Thome, Killebrew, Konerko, etc)

Didnt like kgjr either.

Dunn was one of the reasons why I don't give a fuck about his stats, they don't mean shit, if you look at Johnny Gomes and compare his numbers to Dunn its a no brainer Dunn is better right? However in any given situation I would rather have Gomes at the plate. Especially if there is a runner at third with less than two outs.

To me its not what the numbers are its how you get those numbers.

Gomes goes 1-4 with a RBI single and a RBI sac fly, one ab he puts the ball in play and advances a runner to scoring position.

Dunn goes 1-4 hits a 2 run homerun, walks once and strikes out 3 times including once with runner on 3rd in a tie game and one out.

Staticaly Dunn looks better, his walk and his HR inflate his OPS, but his impact on the outcome of the game isn't any better.

[FirstTimer]

Dunn was always a lightning rod in Cincy and I never understood why.

Dunn has been one of the top ten offensive players in the game over the last decade. High OBA, 40+ HR's, 100 RBI, 100 R, 100 BB's, what more do you want offensively?

It always baffled me how Reds fans were so supportive of Griffey, who was never in shape, always hurt, and never produced after his first year in 2000. I don't think I saw Griffey ever break into a full sprint for 8 years as a Red, the guy did nothing but loaf. Plus, his fat ass whined and cried when it was obvious he couldnt play CF anymore and they asked him to RF. And everyone still adores him. That trade was the biggest bust in Reds history.

And then you had Dunn, a home grown guy, producing .950 OPS and 40 HR's year after year, never missed a game, but everyone hated his guts. I just don't get it. Those Reds teams were bad because Griffey was a bum, and they had no pitching. Dunn was hardly the problem, in fact, he was probably the best player on the team (unless you want to argue for Harang during the two year stretch where he led the NL in W's and K's).

As far as Dunn this year, I have no clue whats going on. His OPS is almost .300 points lower than his career average. It's unexplainable, because he's a guy who always had "old man" skills (lots of BB's, bad defense, power), and those players decline slower than others. Something tells me it's just a prolonged slump. He's only 30, and guys with his profile usually stay productive until they push 40 (Thome, Killebrew, Konerko, etc)

I'm hoping he hasn't gone all Richie Sexson on me....

I am guilty of drinking the kool aid going into the year. I thought he was gonna mash at that stadium, so I reached on him a round or two early this year in our VSN fantasy draft. Pretty sure nobody thought it was a terrible pick either at the time, we all pretty much agreed he'd hit a ton of homers this year. And he's barely even hitting singles. It's kind of sad to watch him just totally suck.

At least you got Helton out of it all.