Hmmm... Blue Jays cheating?

[NAHSTE]

turner field is a bottom 10 hitters park.

nah, this factor only applies one way, not the other.

That doesn't quite explain away a 100 point deviation.

[killgod]

Road teams hit more HR's at Rogers Centre than the "hitter friendly" US Cellular field.

:davegrohl:

Take away Bautista and this whole situation doesn't exist because his total ruins the stats supporting the anonymous allegations.

[Senser81]

[NAHSTE]

Road teams hit more HR's at Rogers Centre than the "hitter friendly" US Cellular field.

:davegrohl:

Take away Bautista and this whole situation doesn't exist because his total ruins the stats behind it.

No, you take away the opposing players who are claiming to have caught the Jays cheating red handed, and this doesn't exist.

[killgod]

No, you take away the opposing players who are claiming to have caught the Jays cheating red handed, and this doesn't exist.

If there was more weight to it, they'd stand behind their words.

Seeing a man in white raising a hand 430 feet away from the batter is catching them red handed? Sure.

These guys claim that the "man" was perfectly positioned behind the pitchers head. Would that be one of the 4 sections in straight away centre that are closed and covered in black tarp? they said you wouldn't even have to turn your head, or move your gaze. Guess what, you'd be staring at a closed section of black tarp. Not blue seats. These sections haven't been open in years.

[Rudi]

There is clearly something here. Stats don't lie.

[killgod]

There is clearly something here. Stats don't lie.

I guess Granderson does

"From where I was sitting in the dugout, 300, 400 feet away, I couldn't see anything," he said.

Also this graph from the article



There's TWO spikes correct? One in 2006 and one in 2010.

Wyers found that for every ball that batters made contact with in 2010, Rogers added .011 home runs, up from a rate of just .002 from 2005 to 2009. That puts Rogers Centre in 2010 among the top 3 percent of home run ballparks since 1950.

So in 2006 we didn't have this .011 + HR rate, yet we had the same spike in home HR production on contact.

Explain it.

[NAHSTE]

KG is valiantly trying to defend this, but it's essentially the opposing players' words (supported by independently compiled data) v. the word of the Blue Jays.

You'd think after spy gate that KG would stop trying to defend his cheating clubs.

[killgod]

KG is valiantly trying to defend this, but it's essentially the opposing players' words (supported by independently compiled data) v. the word of the Blue Jays.

You'd think after spy gate that KG would stop trying to defend his cheating clubs.

I never denied the Patriots although I never believed much in the impact of what they did defining the game.


Anyways, you'd think if this was going on as claimed a visiting back catcher would have figured it out by now.

[killgod]

I am real tempted to go down tonight, dressed in white, with a big "Stealin yer signz U MAD" sign for the Oakland bullpen.

[SethMode]

Man, KG is SALTY about his mediocre club being accused of cheating.

[killgod]

Man, KG is SALTY about his mediocre club being accused of cheating.

How am I salty for taking one side of the argument and going for it.

I aint banning people and deleting threads. Do I look like Pete?

[SethMode]

How am I salty for taking one side of the argument and going for it.

I aint banning people and deleting threads. Do I look like Pete?

Chill man...I didn't know that banning and deleting threads was even an issue in the MLB forum. Just don't see you make many appearances here and for this one you went all in.

[NAHSTE]

So apparently it was against the White Sox, says Bautista. Here's a blogger who did some detective work on his own and reached the same conclusion:

http://stealofhome.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/blue-jays-caught-stealing-signs-but-by-whom/

[Goober]

I am real tempted to go down tonight, dressed in white, with a big "Stealin yer signz U MAD" sign for the Oakland bullpen.

This would be awesome.