Phillies Offseason Thread

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[Blade]

I honestly can say I have no idea what's going to happen this off-season with the Phils.

Last year, I made a guess that we would steal Cliff Lee and I got lucky. This year, with so many players to resign, I have no idea.

I also am still feeling dissapointed by the playoffs and in turn not really motivated to speculate on what they will do. It's pathetic lol.

[Obst]

The Phillies have interest in Jason Kubel and have checked in on Grady Sizemore.

More than six teams have expressed interest in Jimmy Rollins.

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According to Jon Heyman theres not much optimism now phillies ceo montgomery will approve $44M, 4-yr deal. so madson has good chance to go elsewhere

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Phillies GM Ruben Amaro Jr. said that the club never agreed to terms on a contract with closer Ryan Madson, according to Jayson Stark of ESPN. Amaro categorized the rumored four-year, $44MM contract as "unequivocally false," reports Stark.

The Phils are interested in Jonathan Papelbon, tweets Jon Heyman of SI.com, so if talks with Madson don't work out, Pap may be their new target.

The Phils' reported near-deal with Madson has unfolded curiously since the story broke on Tuesday afternoon. The holdup in it becoming official was apparently that Phillies president David Montgomery had not approved the terms. Heyman tweeted earlier this afternoon that there was little optimism that Montgomery would sign off on the pact, which had become a hot topic of discussion. There was a split among executives and agents regarding whether it would have been a good deal.

[SethMode]

I heard the Papelbon shit late last week on MLB Network and hoped it wasn't true.

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I rather have Papelbon over Madson if the price is right.

[SethMode]

I rather have Papelbon over Madson if the price is right.

I personally just don't like Papelbon. I think he's overrated to a huge degree (as opposed to being overrated to a minor degree like Madson).

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I'm on the other side of the fence on this one. I'm one that thinks 11 mil per year for Madson is really overrating him and rather get two draft picks in his place.

[manchild24]

I'm on the other side of the fence on this one. I'm one that thinks 11 mil per year for Madson is really overrating him and rather get two draft picks in his place.

I agree with you but the phillies window to win is about 2 or 3 years, they are old and by the time his deal would be up everyone would be looking at Howards deal

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I agree with you but the phillies window to win is about 2 or 3 years, they are old and by the time his deal would be up everyone would be looking at Howards deal

Even if I agreed with this, getting two draft picks would add to our depleted farm. Also I don't understand what Howards bad contract has anything to do with Madson

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It has become "increasingly clear" that Papelbon's price might not be much higher than what Scott Boras is seeking for Madson, says Stark. The team has been debating the merits of keeping Madson versus signing Papelbon for quite some time.

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I don't get why the Phillies are prioritizing closer over shortstop given their relative importance and relative scarcity, but hey it is not my team. You want to overpay for Papelbon or Madson, be my guest.

I can't see why they don't bring back Rollins though, how many decent shortstops are there?

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The Phillies have agreed to sign Jonathan Papelbon, according to Jim Salisbury of CSNPhilly.com. The deal is pending a physical. It is likely that Papelbon will receive a four-year contract.

[Goober]

Four years and 50 million. Ha!