MLB Network's Top 9 First Basemen Ever

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  • nflman2033
    George Brett of VSN
    • Apr 2009
    • 2393

    #16
    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
    Thome & Killebrew are shockingly similar players is so many ways. Thome could be Killebrew's illegitimate son.
    and the fact that the ballparks that Killebrew played in, combined with the higher mound, less teams meaning that starting pitching was better, leads me to conclude that Killebrew is far better than Thome

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    • Warner2BruceTD
      2011 Poster Of The Year
      • Mar 2009
      • 26141

      #17
      Originally posted by nflman2033
      and the fact that the ballparks that Killebrew played in, combined with the higher mound, less teams meaning that starting pitching was better, leads me to conclude that Killebrew is far better than Thome
      I have no gripe if you think Killebrew is better. But the two players are so strikingly similar is almost every way, statistical, style of play, body type, position, etc etc, that 'far better' is a bit strong, no?

      Even the OPS+ is 143-147 (in Thome's favor, by the way) which kind of negates the different time periods.

      And just like Thome, Killebrew came up as a 3B, was really bad at it, moved to 1B and was really bad it, and then finished up as a DH.

      The only difference between the two is Killebrew hit RH.

      It's almost as if Killebrew was born all over again 30 years later.

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      • nflman2033
        George Brett of VSN
        • Apr 2009
        • 2393

        #18
        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
        I have no gripe if you think Killebrew is better. But the two players are so strikingly similar is almost every way, statistical, style of play, body type, position, etc etc, that 'far better' is a bit strong, no?

        Even the OPS+ is 143-147 (in Thome's favor, by the way) which kind of negates the different time periods.

        And just like Thome, Killebrew came up as a 3B, was really bad at it, moved to 1B and was really bad it, and then finished up as a DH.

        The only difference between the two is Killebrew hit RH.

        It's almost as if Killebrew was born all over again 30 years later.
        OPS isn't going to negate the fact that Killebrew lead the league in HR's more than Thome, hit 40 HR's more times than Thome, and did it in an era when the average distance to wall was further.

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        • FirstTimer
          Freeman Error

          • Feb 2009
          • 18720

          #19
          Originally posted by MVPete1982
          Frank Thomas should be somewhere on this list, slightly ahead of Bagwell and Thome and the historical greats in between. I'm drunk right now but I thought about the big hurt on the way home even though he spent a lot of time at DH.
          I think you had to play 1000 games at the position to qualify.

          Thomas played 971.

          They did a list of best DH's ever and he was on that one. If Thomas was on this list he'd most likely be #3 or #4

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