Reds sign Ryan Madson

[Warner2BruceTD]

Great deal for the Reds. Seems like a shitty deal for Madson though. Didn't Boras turn down the Phillies 44 million over 4 year contract? And now he ended up with a 1 year 8.5 million one?

Madson and Cordero both fucked themselves by holding firm early, and then the jobs dried up.

Cordero had a two year deal on the table from the Reds in December, and now he may not even be closing whenever he settles in somewhere, which means he likely won't approach the $7 or $8M the Reds offered him.

[Rudi]

The deal supposedly has a mutual option for 2013 which would allow Cincy to not pay all the 8.5M this season and spread it out into 2013 as well.

[SethMode]

The deal supposedly has a mutual option for 2013 which would allow Cincy to not pay all the 8.5M this season and spread it out into 2013 as well.

Well then, Madson

[nflman2033]

sounds like a great deal to me really.

[SethMode]

sounds like a great deal to me really.

For the Reds? Sure. But this isn't a player contract. He could have gotten a much better deal if he'd just taken the one the Phils threw at him. Now he has to make sure that he performs to get paid.

[nflman2033]

For the Reds? Sure. But this isn't a player contract. He could have gotten a much better deal if he'd just taken the one the Phils threw at him. Now he has to make sure that he performs to get paid.

well yeah, the fuckers make enough money so I am only looking at it from the teams perspective, especially since the Reds are a small market club.

[Guest]

Madson and Cordero both fucked themselves by holding firm early, and then the jobs dried up.

Cordero had a two year deal on the table from the Reds in December, and now he may not even be closing whenever he settles in somewhere, which means he likely won't approach the $7 or $8M the Reds offered him.

With the deals given to relievers last season, you can't really blame them (and some of those deals were awful.) Problem is, the market moves from year to year, so by waiting they took that chance and turns out they both should have taken their original offers.

[SethMode]

well yeah, the fuckers make enough money so I am only looking at it from the teams perspective, especially since the Reds are a small market club.

? Okay? I guess I'm a little confused as to what post then you were referring to when you said "sounds like a great deal to me really" because I don't know if anyone anywhere argued that it was a bad deal for the Reds.

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Reds’ one-year, $8.5MM contract with Ryan Madson is “perhaps the deal of the offseason so far,” ESPN.com’s Keith Law writes. Law says the Phillies seem like losers and that their four-year, $50MM deal with Jonathan Papelbon “looks absolutely comical.”

Ouch.

Eh, like I said when it happened, when it comes to the Phillies or Yankees, it's almost impossible for them to make bad deals. In hindsight it looks awful, but as long as Papelbon doesn't implode, the deal won't hurt them.

[KnightNoles]

Great pickup and once I saw the news I immediately thought how W2B would react. This really shortens games for the Reds if Chapman doesn't cut it starting.

Hell maybe give Cordero something for his hard work in Cincy, make a starter go 5 and some change then flip it over to Chapman, Cordero, Marshall and Madsen..

[nflman2033]

? Okay? I guess I'm a little confused as to what post then you were referring to when you said "sounds like a great deal to me really" because I don't know if anyone anywhere argued that it was a bad deal for the Reds.

No one did, I wasn't posting it as a front to anyone I was posting how I like the deal WS a reds fan