Mariners trade Pineda to Yanks for Montero

[Villain]

They should've kept Pineda and signed Fielder. But then, I have no clue how their payroll works so that is probably just a fantasy scenario.

[NAHSTE]

Trade just feels rushed to me. Not sure if they were throwing his name out at the winter meetings or not, or if a team was willing to part with a more proven young hitter(or a better package) than Montero. Their GM put together a team with stellar defense, and they play in a pitchers park, so you'd think they would keep Felix and Pineda and fill the rotation around them over the next few years. I don't see them contending this year, so they had time to see how some of their guys pan out and re-evaulaute next offseason.

I agree the timing of it is weird, but I wouldn't be shocked if this was pushed harder by the Yankees than the M's, until they finally wore them down enough to say fuck it.

Guessing it played out like this ...

Cash won't stop asking about Felix ...
Jack Z says fuck off we aren't trading Felix ...
Cash then says well what about Pineda?

And after the Yankees planted the seed, the M's weighed the pros and cons and figured that Montero is their best chance at landing a huge bat.

I think you guys are underselling the value Montero has. Sure he's purely a DH but he is a damn good one. There was no way Seattle was acquiring a .300/30 hitter via any means other than parting with Felix or Pineda. This was the only move they could do to upgrade their historically bad offense without causing an outright mutiny in the fan base by trading Felix. Montero will be cost controlled for an additional year beyond Pineda, which will presumably be when Ackley, Smoak, Hultzen, etc. will be in their primes, and maybe with that you have enough reason to extend Felix.

Should be a good group. Very similar to the A's, they are punting the next few years so they can better align their young talent.

[NAHSTE]

Love this trade. Pineda is going to be so fucking good on my fantasy team.

I think you guys are underselling the value Montero has. Sure he's purely a DH but he is a damn good one.

Good god what a nothing trade a year and a half later. Pineda hasn't pitched yet for the Yankees and Montero has been worth -0.7 WAR for the Mariners. He's currently slashing .204/.257/.333 with a .260 wOBA and 65 wRC+. So shitty.

Pineda has been throwing in extended spring training and could return by late June, but we'll see how effective he is if and when he returns. For now, a nothing trade.

[Golden Taters]

Up-and-coming hitters go to die in Seattle.

Ackley, Smoak and Montero

[Warner2BruceTD]

Four players involved in this deal. None have a positive WAR almost one and a half seasons later.

[Chrispy]

One is on their way back, the other is on their way down

[DJ Rhude]

I remember being annoyed when the Yanks traded Montero.....trade isn't looking so good for either team so far

[MVPete]

He's done catching, so the hope is that he goes down and learns how to hit again while getting better at 1B so they can finally get rid of Smoak next year.

[DJ Rhude]

Yeah when he was still in NY the jury was out on his catching...when we called him up he hit pretty well tho......I'm more surprised he's been struggling at the plate since his bat has been what was always highly touted and not his catching skills

[Golden Taters]

Jesus Montero just got sent down to AAA.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9306478/jesus-montero-sent-minors-seattle-mariners

SEATTLE, Wash. -- The Seattle Mariners have sent slumping catcher Jesus Montero to the minor leagues.

The Mariners optioned Montero to Triple-A Tacoma on Thursday. He has 72 hours to join the club.

The 23-year-old Montero is hitting .208 with three home runs and nine RBIs. He hit .260 with 15 homers and 62 RBIs last year in his first full season in the majors.

Seattle will make a corresponding roster move Friday.


Copyright 2013 by The Associated Press

[Slateman]

Pineda is being described as "close to pitching in the minors." Dude tore his labrum, I can't imagine him coming back like he was before.

Who makes it back to the bigs first? Montero or Pineda?

[Goober]

Love this trade. Pineda is going to be so fucking good on my fantasy team.

Traded Pineda for Kuroda shortly after Pineda got hurt. Kuroda had a great year for me.

[Chrispy]

Pineda is being described as "close to pitching in the minors." Dude tore his labrum, I can't imagine him coming back like he was before.

Who makes it back to the bigs first? Montero or Pineda?

Montero, I think his stint will be brief, I think Pineda comes back in late July

[Golden Taters]

He's done catching, so the hope is that he goes down and learns how to hit again while getting better at 1B so they can finally get rid of Smoak next year.

Yeah it doesn't look good for Montero. Zunino will be the catcher for the Mariners, so Montero will have to battle Smoak for 1B as Morales isn't gonna be moved from DH because he actually gets on base.

I approve of the move to AAA, we have too many worthless hitters in our lineup. Smoak, Ackley, Montero, Ryan...

[NAHSTE]

Yeah it doesn't look good for Montero. Zunino will be the catcher for the Mariners, so Montero will have to battle Smoak for 1B as Morales isn't gonna be moved from DH because he actually gets on base.

I approve of the move to AAA, we have too many worthless hitters in our lineup. Smoak, Ackley, Montero, Ryan...

Hitting .214/.282/.481 in AAA with a 29% K rate and a 6% BB rate. Hasn't walked since April 27.