Montero for Pineda

[FedEx227]

Saw that as well. Great K/BB numbers. That bodes well for future success.

[FirstTimer]

Was just reading about this last night in the Bill James Abstract about how predicting a young pitchers longevity/success can be tied to his K's per 9 number relative to the league averages at the time.

Interesting stuff and a great read.

[Sharkweather]

Felix
Walker
Hultzen
Paxton
Noesi

Yikes.

[Golden Taters]

I like the trade, we have enough great pitching prospects coming up and we had to do something with our offense. Lowest team batting average since the DH was added?

I'm not concerned with losing Pineda, especially in the ballpark the Mariners play in. Hopefully Jesus is our savior and shows his hitting ability the organization is banking on. I really like the Ackley/Smoak/Montero combo we have, and will be very excited when Hultzen (2nd overall pick) is ready to go.

I'm very excited the direction Mariners baseball is heading in these next couple years. It's been too painful to suck this bad for so long, and then trade away studs like Adam Jones and Mike Morse (why God why!?!?) for shit.

[BiggaAdams]

I don't trust Pineda to stay healthy, and he really needs another pitch. Sounds like he's been working on his change up but his velocity is down, 93mph I believe is where he was at. Pineda needs that 96-100mph FB or he really loses a lot of his effectiveness.

We're going to give Montero time at catcher, but I think regardless where we play him we did what was right for our roster as did the Yanks. The yanks can acquire a big bat a lot easier with the money they have. Grabbing a pitcher is harder.

Hultzen will be up this year, Paxton is a power lefty and Walker is probably going to be the best of the bunch.

Noesi is going to be MONEY in Safeco.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Was just reading about this last night in the Bill James Abstract about how predicting a young pitchers longevity/success can be tied to his K's per 9 number relative to the league averages at the time.

Interesting stuff and a great read.

Lew Burdette up in this bitch!

Basically, as the theory goes, Lew Burdette is the only pitcher since WWII who averaged less than 4 K/9 in his first four seasons who went on to have a long, significant career.

The higher the K/9 early on, the better, because that number will drop fairly rapidly as the pitcher gets older, and thus, more contact = more runs. The lower that number starts, the less chance the pitcher has a long term success.

This is what your talking about, right?

[NAHSTE]

Pineda has hit the 15-day DL with shoulder tendinitis.

[EmpireWF]

A wasted draft pick from me. Do I just cut him loose?

[Warner2BruceTD]

A wasted draft pick from me. Do I just cut him loose?

Dude, he's on the 15-day DL.

Unless you are in a really really shallow league that carries a very small bench, why on earth would you cut a guy like Pineda?

[EmpireWF]

gotcha skipped over the 15 day part

[NAHSTE]

They are claiming it's "minor inflammation" but shoulder tendinitis is never a good thing. He runs the risk of altering his delivery to compensate for the pain and in turn hurting his elbow.

[Warner2BruceTD]

To me, the biggest worry is no necessarily the injury, it's the fact that Pineda never clearly beat out Nova & Garcia for the 4/5 spot after Girardi named Hughes the #3.