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  • Leftwich
    Bring on the Season

    • Oct 2008
    • 13700

    Adam Jones about to get that gwop

    Orioles To Extend Adam Jones
    By Ben Nicholson-Smith [May 25 at 10:42am CST]

    10:42am: The deal will cover six years and fall in the $85MM range, Rosenthal and Morosi report (on Twitter). This means the deal will buy out Jones' final arbitration year (presumably for $9-10MM) and five free agent seasons at approximately $15MM per year.

    7:41am: Adam Jones is the best player on the first-place team in baseball's most competitive division and the Orioles aren't going to let him slip away. They are nearing a long-term contract extension with the center fielder, Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports report (plus Twitter links).



    Jones completed his physical yesterday and the sides are in the process of completing the final details of the contract. The Orioles are making a commitment "well north" of Miguel Tejada's six-year, $72MM contract and Nick Markakis' six-year, $66MM extension, Rosenthal and Morosi report. This means the CAA Sports client will sign the largest contract in Orioles history. Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun expects the deal to be for five or six years and $80-90MM.

    Jones, 26, is earning $6.15MM this year as a second-time arbitration eligible player. The extension will buy out one year of arbitration eligibility and an unknown number of free agent seasons.

    Jones is hitting .311/.357/.601 in 196 plate appearances this year. He's on his way to establishing career-highs in home runs (14 so far) and slugging percentage. Though he has a career on-base percentage of .322, his walk rate and on-base percentage are both on the rise.

    Earlier this month Dave Cameron of FanGraphs compared Jones' breakout to Matt Kemp's 2011 season and suggested an extension in the $120-140MM range could work for both sides. Check out MLBTR's Extension Tracker for more comparable contracts.


    Too bad they couldn't give him infinity dollars cause he deserves it.

    Originally posted by Tailback U
    It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.
  • FirstTimer
    Freeman Error

    • Feb 2009
    • 18729

    #2
    I love Adam Jones.

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    • Leftwich
      Bring on the Season

      • Oct 2008
      • 13700

      #3
      Originally posted by FirstTimer
      I love Adam Jones.
      How can you not? He was traded for Erik Bedard lol. He was too cool to go to the Braves and now will be locked up by the orioles for quite some time.

      Even if we don't win shit, we'll at least have him and no one else will.

      Originally posted by Tailback U
      It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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      • FirstTimer
        Freeman Error

        • Feb 2009
        • 18729

        #4


        Adam Jones has been one of the most valuable players in baseball this season, helping the Orioles to a surprising 28-17 start that has them in first place in the American League East with the second-best record in all of baseball. On Thursday, he was rewarded for that good work with a contract extension that Fox Sports' Ken Rosenthal reported is worth around $85 million over six years.

        Yesterday, I listed Baltimore's 26-year-old centerfielder as the fourth most valuable player in the American League to this point in the season. Based on what he has done at the plate this year, his youth, his position and the $160 million contract fellow centerfielder Matt Kemp signed this past offseason, Jones would appear to be worth far more money than the Orioles are about to give him.

        A closer look, however, reveals that Jones is unlikely to sustain his current rate of production. As a result, the Orioles aren't getting the sort of bargain the Pirates got in March when they signed Andrew McCutchen, a better player further away from free agency, for $51.5 million over six years. Baltimore did prevent Jones from testing the market, where he might have been overvalued, but it seems unlikely that they saved any money at all with this deal relative to Jones' actual on-field value.

        Entering Friday, Jones has hit .311/.357/.601 with 14 home runs and 29 RBIs in the first quarter of his fifth season as a major league regular. If that's the player he is going to be going forward, this deal, which would have an annual average value of $14 million, could actually be a bargain for the Orioles. However, there are doubts that Jones will continue to produce at that level. Those concerns are not age-related. Assuming Jones' new contract takes effect next year, replacing his final season of arbitration eligibility (Jones was due to become a free agent after the 2013 season), it will only take him through his age-32 season. Rather, the most impressive parts of Jones' performance this season -- his .601 slugging percentage and 14 home runs -- represent a significant spike over his past power performances, and that doesn't seem likely to last.

        Prior to this season, Jones' career high in home runs was 25, his career high in isolated slugging (slugging percentage minus batting average) was .185, and the highest rate at which his fly balls turned into home runs was 12.4 percent. Granted, all of those career highs were from last year, but this year his ISO is .290 and 22.6 percent of his fly balls are leaving the ballpark.

        To put the latter figure in perspective, from 2002 to 2004, when Barry Bonds averaged 45 home runs a year despite being walked nearly 200 times a year and seemed to hit the ball out every time he took the bat off his shoulder, his fly balls left the ballpark 24.2 percent of the time. To be sure, Jones is a good player -- there's pop in his bat, and he's just entering his prime, meaning he's still finding out what he can do in this game -- but he's not last decade's Barry Bonds. Another comparison: Prior to this year, Albert Pujols' fly balls left the park 15.6 percent of the time. Jones' power numbers are going to regress, likely soon.

        Then there is his batting average. Jones is hitting .311 right now. He hit .282 over the last two seasons and isn't having any unusual luck on his balls in play dropping for hits, so it may be that he can flirt with .300 on a regular basis. Counting Manny Ramirez, though, there are just nine active hitters with lifetime averages at or above .311, so Jones' average is going to trend downward as well, even if only slightly.

        So let's say Jones is a .290 hitter with a .200 isolated slugging. Those are excellent numbers, but that's a surprisingly large part of what he can do. Jones doesn't walk much, so, using his established rate of posting an on-base percentage about 40 points above his batting average, a full slash line based on those assumptions would look something like .290/.330/.490. Jones is a centerfielder and has a lithe, athletic build, but he's not a very good basestealer. In fact, the only category he leads the American League in right now is caught stealing, and over the last three seasons he has been successful in only 62.5 percent of his steal attempts, far below the MLB average of 71.3 percent.

        Defensively, Jones won the Gold Glove in 2009, makes his share of highlight-reel plays and has a fantastic throwing arm, but there is a lot of disagreement among the advanced statistics about his actual defensive value. Ultimate Zone Rating had him significantly below average in each of the last three seasons, as did John Dewan's plus/minus system. Baseball Prospectus's Fielding Runs were more favorable, suggesting he might indeed have earned that Gold Glove, but had him below average last year. Total Zone has him closer to average, but still on the negative side.

        Dewan broke down the issues with Jones' fielding in Volume III of his Fielding Bible, published earlier this year. According to Dewan, no centerfielder over the past three years has taken more bad routes or broken in the wrong direction more often. Dewan also reports that Jones often gives runners extra bases (compared to the average centerfielder) on low-trajectory fly balls hit into the gaps and by mishandling balls after they fall for hits. That's damning to be sure, and given the aggregate of the four defensive systems mentioned above, it seems difficult to view Jones as any better than an average defensive centerfielder and very likely that he falls short of that standard.

        The upside to all of this remains Jones' youth and the relative affordability of his average annual salary. The Dodgers' Kemp, a clearly superior player who is just one year older than Jones, is the only centerfielder with a larger contract right now, but the total value of Kemp's eight-year, $160 million deal is nearly twice that of what Jones' will be. Jones' extension will look even better after Josh Hamilton,a pending free-agent who is 31 this season -- just a year younger than Jones will be in the final year of his new deal -- signs his next deal, which has a good chance of breaking $100 million.

        Still, when a team signs a player this far in advance of his free agency, its goal is typically to leverage the uncertainty of the intervening seasons to tie up that player for less than he is worth, as the Pirates did with McCutchen. The Orioles did not do that with Jones.

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        • NAHSTE
          Probably owns the site
          • Feb 2009
          • 22233

          #5
          Always a good idea to sign center fielders to a lucrative long term extension in the middle of a career year.

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          • Rudi
            #CyCueto
            • Nov 2008
            • 9905

            #6
            Stupid. Why would a club want to lock up one of their best players to keep him in town?

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            • FirstTimer
              Freeman Error

              • Feb 2009
              • 18729

              #7
              Originally posted by NAHSTE
              Always a good idea to sign center fielders to a lucrative long term extension in the middle of a career year.

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              • MVPete
                Old School
                • Mar 2008
                • 17500

                #8
                They should of waited till after the All Star Break to see which Jones shows up.

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                • ThomasTomasz
                  • Nov 2024

                  #9


                  Good contract, covers Jones until he is 32, right through his prime. I think he's finally taken the next step, and I think he can continue what he's doing this season. Hopefully, the O's can put some more money into the team this off-season as well.

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                  • Leftwich
                    Bring on the Season

                    • Oct 2008
                    • 13700

                    #10
                    Adam Jones' new contract extension with the Orioles is worth $88.5 million over six years.
                    The Orioles will officially announce the deal at a press conference Sunday. It's a huge commitment, but Jones seems to be hitting his prime here at age 26 and undoubtedly carries great star power. If his early offensive production proves legit, the agreement should be a winner for both the Orioles and the talented center fielder.
                    That's the deal. I think its a great deal and he's worth every penny.

                    Nahste can finally quit telling me AJ10 is going to be traded to the Barves.

                    Originally posted by Tailback U
                    It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Leftwich
                      That's the deal. I think its a great deal and he's worth every penny.

                      Nahste can finally quit telling me AJ10 is going to be traded to the Barves.
                      Don't ever do that again.

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                      • MVPete
                        Old School
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 17500

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                        Don't ever do that again.

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                        • ThomasTomasz
                          • Nov 2024

                          #13
                          It was supposed to be Jair Jurrjens, Martin Prado and a prosper for Adam Jones. I slammed the Orioles for not doing it, but I am thankful they did not.

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                          • Golden Taters
                            RIP West
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 6640

                            #14
                            Give him back.

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                            • Leftwich
                              Bring on the Season

                              • Oct 2008
                              • 13700

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                              Don't ever do that again.
                              It's his twitter handle you silly faggot.

                              Originally posted by Tailback U
                              It won't say shit, because dying is for pussies.

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