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  • ThomasTomasz
    • Nov 2024

    Define dominance

    Aroldis Chapman- 84 outs, 50 K's, seven hits, zero earned runs.

    Any other performances that stand out like this, whether this year or in the past? And yes, from the discussion a few weeks ago, Kerry Wood is included.
  • SuperKevin
    War Hero
    • Dec 2009
    • 8759

    #2
    Orel Hershiser in 1988 comes to mind

    23-8 2.26 ERA 267 IP 15 CG 59 scoreless innings to close the season

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    • Goober
      Needs a hobby
      • Feb 2009
      • 12271

      #3
      Barry Bonds 2004 season.

      .362/.609/.812

      Hit into 238 outs. Got on base 367 times.

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      • NAHSTE
        Probably owns the site
        • Feb 2009
        • 22233

        #4
        Greg Maddux totals between 94 and 95, his age 28 and 29 seasons:

        411 innings pitched
        337 strikeouts
        54 unintentional walks
        73 earned runs
        297 hits allowed
        7.4 K/9
        1.2 BB/9
        6.2 K/BB
        .853 WHIP
        1.60 ERA
        265 ERA+
        35-8 W-L record

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        • Slateman
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 2777

          #5
          Eric Gagne

          82 innings pitched, .692 WHIP, 137 strikeouts
          The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
          As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
          If only I had died instead of you
          O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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          • Goober
            Needs a hobby
            • Feb 2009
            • 12271

            #6
            2004 Ben Sheets
            237 IP
            264 strikeouts
            32 walks
            2.70 ERA

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            • EmpireWF
              Giants in the Super Bowl
              • Mar 2009
              • 24082

              #7
              1999 Pedro Martinez
              5 CG, 1 SHO
              2.07 ERA & .923 WHIP
              213.1 IP
              160 H
              49 ER
              9 HR
              37 BB
              313 SO
              6.8 H/9, 0.4 HR/9, 1.6 BB/9, 13.2 SO/9

              2000 Pedro Martinez
              7 CG, 4 SHO
              1.74 ERA & .737 WHIP
              217 IP
              128 H
              42 ER
              17 HR
              32 BB
              284 SO
              5.3 H/9, 0.7 HR/9, 1.3 BB/9, 11.8 SO/9

              Originally posted by ThomasTomasz
              Aroldis Chapman- 84 outs, 50 K's, seven hits, zero earned runs.
              And 1 blown save against the Mets.


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              • Villain
                [REDACTED]
                • May 2011
                • 7768

                #8
                Kenley Jansen Career Line: 107.1 IP, 178 Ks, 2.10 ERA, 14.9 K/9, 4.3 BB/9, .9880 WHIP

                All from a converted catcher who never pitched until one year before his MLB debut.

                Also, pick one: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...oufasa01.shtml
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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  #9
                  Originally posted by EmpireWF

                  And 1 blown save against the Mets.
                  More like blown hold, on a error.

                  Pick a year: http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ohnswa01.shtml

                  Keep in mind that he would fuck around sometimes and serve up fat pitches to his pals in meaningless games and blowouts.

                  Also, Goose Gossage, 1981: 0.77 ERA, 0.771 WHIP, 465 ERA+, 20 saves (strike year).

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                  • Senser81
                    VSN Poster of the Year
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 12804

                    #10
                    I actually thought of Gossage's 1981 season as well. I think Bruce Sutter's 1977 was similarly "dominant", but its a matter of taste.

                    Sutter, 1977: 1.35 ERA, 0.857 WHIP (Hubley), 328 ERA+, 129 K's in 107 IP, 31 saves.

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      #11
                      Sutter threw 107 innings that season. Gossage threw around 130 innings in some of his best years.

                      To me, that era was the apex of when managers used the 'bullpen ace' perfectly and to his full benefit. Previous to that, teams stockpiled bums in the bullpen, and with the exception of guys like Roy Face or Hoyt Wilhelm, when teams found somebody good they would either turn him into a mediocre starter, or waste him and burn him out by having him go 4 innings in blowouts. The late 70's saw managers use their best guy in any crucial situation in the 7th or later, and then leave him in to finish the game if it stayed close (this is how Dusty Baker was using Chapman this year, until he put him in the dreaded "closer role". He still brings in Chapman in the 8th sometimes with men on, but now half of Chapman's appearances are with 3-run leads in the 9th, instead of tie games in the 7th or 8th. Stupid.). Now, of course, the 'bullpen ace' is totally under used, but that;s a different discussion.

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                      • Senser81
                        VSN Poster of the Year
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 12804

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                        To me, that era was the apex of when managers used the 'bullpen ace' perfectly and to his full benefit. Previous to that, teams stockpiled bums in the bullpen, and with the exception of guys like Roy Face or Hoyt Wilhelm, when teams found somebody good they would either turn him into a mediocre starter, or waste him and burn him out by having him go 4 innings in blowouts. The late 70's saw managers use their best guy in any crucial situation in the 7th or later, and then leave him in to finish the game if it stayed close (this is how Dusty Baker was using Chapman this year, until he put him in the dreaded "closer role". He still brings in Chapman in the 8th sometimes with men on, but now half of Chapman's appearances are with 3-run leads in the 9th, instead of tie games in the 7th or 8th. Stupid.). Now, of course, the 'bullpen ace' is totally under used, but that;s a different discussion.
                        Yeah, when I was the Champs and I was playing my brother (All-Stars) at Hardball, the first guy in from the bullpen in any non-blowout situation was Jimmy Morlini. The guy was an ace.

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                        • strahanfan92
                          Meat
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 5456

                          #13
                          Bob Gibson 1968:

                          28 complete games. 13 shutouts. And the best part, 22-9 record.

                          1.12 ERA, 268 Ks, .853 WHIP


                          So dominant they had to lower the mound in '69.

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                          • Slateman
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2777

                            #14
                            Originally posted by strahanfan92
                            Bob Gibson 1968:

                            28 complete games. 13 shutouts. And the best part, 22-9 record.

                            1.12 ERA, 268 Ks, .853 WHIP


                            So dominant they had to lower the mound in '69.
                            Actually, IIRC, that was the lowest scoring year among all of baseball.
                            The king was shaken. He went up to the room over the gateway and wept.
                            As he went, he said: "O my son Absalom! My son, my son Absalom!
                            If only I had died instead of you
                            O Absalom, my son, my son!"

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                            • Obst
                              RIP West
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 4182

                              #15
                              Steve Carlton's 1972 season - 27 wins, 1.97 ERA, 310 strikeouts and a WAR of 12.2. During a stretch from June 7 until Aug. 17, Carlton went 15-0 while averaging nearly 8 2/3 innings per start.

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