Hmmmm...

[Warner2BruceTD]

Player A: Age 26, 232 IP, 3.06 ERA, 8.7 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, 122 ERA+, 4.6 WAR, Home Park factor: 0.687

Player B: Age 24, 209 IP, 3.43 ERA, 8.0 K/9, 2.8 BB/9, 122 ERA+, 4.2 WAR, Home Park factor: 1.113

[SuperKevin]

I hate these blind player comparisons because I never have any clue as to who they are

[Primetime]

I hate these blind player comparisons because I never have any clue as to who they are

Pretty sure this is a blind test to compare which Upton brother is better. Has to be.

[MVPete]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/latosma01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hernafe02.shtml

[Goober]

One more stat, just for fun:
Player A - 6.1 fWAR
Player B - 3.1 fWAR

[Slateman]

Player A

[Garrett67]

Uptons don't pitch.


Player A

[Warner2BruceTD]

One more stat, just for fun:
Player A - 6.1 fWAR
Player B - 3.1 fWAR

Which is actually another shining example of WAR being highly questionable. One of those guys was worth "double" the other last season? Look at the numbers. 23 innings cant matter THAT much?

[Warner2BruceTD]

I hate these blind player comparisons because I never have any clue as to who they are

kind of the point

[Villain]

Uptons don't pitch.

:yadontsay:

[SuperKevin]

kind of the point

I don't care about stats unless I can see who it is though

[Leftwich]

Can i have their FIP please.

[Goober]

Which is actually another shining example of WAR being highly questionable. One of those guys was worth "double" the other last season? Look at the numbers. 23 innings cant matter THAT much?

I think the difference in value is realistic. One player was a Cy Young candidate, the second best pitcher in all of MLB last year. The other guy is just a middle of the rotation schmuck who gave up a ton of home runs.

[FedEx227]

It's definitely Player A.

And player A's WAR should be higher if he's striking out almost 1 full batter per 9 innings.

[Goober]

Just for fun, let me throw out another player, that makes a better anti WAR argument then anything that Warner has ever brought up.

Player C: Age 28, 205.1 IP, 4.82 ERA, 7.28 K/9, 2.98 BB/9, 90 ERA+, 3.3 fWAR, 1.206 Home Park Factor.

Same year as the other two players Warner brought up originally. This is the most bizarre WAR total for an individual season I have ever seen. At first I honestly questioned whether it was due to a glitch in fangraph's system. The takeaway, in my opinion is that WAR is a great table setter, however it also has its limits. You still have to ask, okay why is this player's WAR the number that it is? What components go into it? And WAR is not a perfect number. A player with a WAR a few decimal points higher then another, does not settle the argument over which player is better. It's like rudi and berowsk arguing who is better looking.