bWAR

[Warner2BruceTD]

Votto - 4.8

Davis - 4.7

yeah, ok

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

bWAR...WHAT IS IT GOOOOD FOR?!

[Warner2BruceTD]

Joey Votto has 37 extra base hits.

Davis has 37 home runs.

[FedEx227]

fWAR

Votto: 4.1

Davis: 5.1

fWAR > bWAR

I've been getting into RE24 lately, it's pretty sweet and makes game situations more important which is worthwhile.

Votto's at 30.33 in RE24. Davis 53.11

[Leftwich]

Waiting for Goob to come in here and explain why Votto is 100x better than Davis this year and telling all of us how bad the orioles are then telling us Ryan Braun didn't use steroids then retract his statement and say it is for the best for him to sit out then try to trade me JJ Hardy for Madison Bumgarner, Brandon Beachy, Desmond Jennings and Manny Machado.

[FirstTimer]

fWAR

Votto: 4.1

Davis: 5.1

fWAR > bWAR

I've been getting into RE24 lately, it's pretty sweet and makes game situations more important which is worthwhile.

Votto's at 30.33 in RE24. Davis 53.11

Doesn't it not factor inning or score though?


I use bwar most of the time but that has more to do with fangraphs website set up being shit

[FedEx227]

Right sorry, I crossed up WPA and RE24. I was thinking and looking at one thing typing another.

RE24 is the difference in run expectancy (RE) between the start of the play and the end of the play. That difference is then credited/debited to the batter and the pitcher. Over the course of the season, each players’ RE24 for individual plays is added up to get his season total RE24.

Solid article on Beyond the Box Score about it: http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...uez-ryan-braun

Calculation Example: In game 4 of the 2007 World Series, the RE for the Red Sox to start the inning was .52. When Jacoby Ellsbury doubled off Aaron Cook in the very first at-bat in the game, the Red Sox were then expected to score 1.15 runs for the rest of the inning. The difference or RE24 was .63 runs. Ellsbury was credited +.63 runs and Aaron Cook credited with -.63 runs.

WPA tells a similar story about the two though.

Votto: 2.80
Davis: 5.12

[Goober]

bWar is the worst. How many times do we have to go over this?

[Guest]

Votto - 4.8

Davis - 4.7

yeah, ok

I know Votto is by far the better fielder, but that's still ridiculous. It is bWAR though, and it proves yet again that it's ridiculous.

[Goober]

I cam across another one of those bizarre BR WAR figures this morning. Jonathan Papelbon in 2006: 5.0 WAR!