Trout, Angels discussing $150 million extension

[Youk]

It could still be Trout. He hasn't agreed to anything yet.

The Angels would just let him go through arbitration rather than pay him $50 million.

[spursup]

It could still be Trout. He hasn't agreed to anything yet.

Suddenly the value of the dollar has gone down so much that we see that kind of increase? By your logic we may as well pay Carlos Pena $25M per year.

[SuperKevin]

Suddenly the value of the dollar has gone down so much that we see that kind of increase? By your logic we may as well pay Carlos Pena $25M per year.

Your attempts at making an argument are so bad that it forces me to reconsider dave's stance.

[Youk]

Suddenly the value of the dollar has gone down so much that we see that kind of increase? By your logic we may as well pay Carlos Pena $25M per year.

Why do you keep talking about the value of the dollar in this conversation?

[dave]

The Angels would just let him go through arbitration rather than pay him $50 million.

But, again, I say the Angels have to be careful how they deal with Trout. This isn't a small market team dealing with Alex Rodriguez in the prime of his career. This is the Los Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles. They have to be careful how they deal with a clearly special talent. They can't simply keep baseball "franchise" him. That simply won't work. They have to make him happy.

[spursup]

I talk about the value of the dollar because that is the driving force behind increases in market value of players, and for that matter, market value of anything else. Value of player has gradually gone up correlating with value of dollar. It's the main reason $50M won't happen for a while.

[Youk]

But, again, I say the Angels have to be careful how they deal with Trout. This isn't a small market team dealing with Alex Rodriguez in the prime of his career. This is the Los Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles. They have to be careful how they deal with a clearly special talent. They can't simply keep baseball "franchise" him. That simply won't work. They have to make him happy.

That still doesn't help support any claims of $50 million. The team can make him happy with $25 million. If he asks for $50 million, no team is going to give him that. He knows it, his agent knows it, the teams know it.

[dave]

I talk about the value of the dollar because that is the driving force behind increases in market value of players, and for that matter, market value of anything else. Value of player has gradually gone up correlating with value of dollar. It's the main reason $50M won't happen for a while.

Welcome to VSN, baseballchampion. I have no doubt for a second you know a million times more about baseball than I do. I stand by my Trout argument, but welcome to VSN.

[Youk]

I talk about the value of the dollar because that is the driving force behind increases in market value of players, and for that matter, market value of anything else. Value of player has gradually gone up correlating with value of dollar. It's the main reason $50M won't happen for a while.

Or it could be the massive local television contracts and team-run networks that are generating tons of money.

[spursup]

But, again, I say the Angels have to be careful how they deal with Trout. This isn't a small market team dealing with Alex Rodriguez in the prime of his career. This is the Los Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles. They have to be careful how they deal with a clearly special talent. They can't simply keep baseball "franchise" him. That simply won't work. They have to make him happy.

Making him happy also includes putting other good players around him so he can win championships. Can't do that if you pay him $50M per year, especially with the contracts they currently have with Pujols and Hamilton.

[SuperKevin]

I talk about the value of the dollar because that is the driving force behind increases in market value of players, and for that matter, market value of anything else. Value of player has gradually gone up correlating with value of dollar. It's the main reason $50M won't happen for a while.

Actually contracts have gone up due to increased revenue from TV deals. Has almost nothing to do with the value of the dollar.

[dave]

That still doesn't help support any claims of $50 million. The team can make him happy with $25 million. If he asks for $50 million, no team is going to give him that. He knows it, his agent knows it, the teams know it.

No team had to give A-Rod that last contract, but did. Baseball is stupid this way. The Yankees gave A-Rod stupid money when he was nearly my age ... with no reason to do so. And they gave him astronomical bonuses for breaking home run records ... even though they likely knew he was cheating as much as Clemens.

[Youk]

Welcome to VSN, baseballchampion. I have no doubt for a second you know a million times more about baseball than I do. I stand by my Trout argument, but welcome to VSN.

I don't even know what to take away from this post.

[spursup]

Actually contracts have gone up due to increased revenue from TV deals. Has almost nothing to do with the value of the dollar.

Because we really had TV deals in the mid-20th century to send contract values up.

My point is they have always gone up due to inflation, but TV deals are helping the cause.

[dave]

I don't even know what to take away from this post.

I have never interacted with baseballchampion. Just wanted to ensure him that popular opinion means nothing. You guys, for whatever reason, seem to be agreeing with me on this one. Just saying hi and telling him he knows more about baseball than yours truly.