I think it could be a possibility. One thing is that the bostons and orlandos have improved IMO a lot to the point where the cavs wanted to do the same. Getting shaq was a good move but he will only be there for one year and he does not solve the cavs woes in guarding the pick and roll, nor does he solve the issues of guarding more perimeter oriented PF's. There is two top teams that Cleveland will have an issue guarding and that's Boston and Orlando. Gettig ariza woulda helped but no one wants to commit beyond this year because bron can bolt. If lebron leaves you get nothing and your franchise is in shambles. If you keep him cleveland needs to have another great year while proving they can beat those two teams. If not by the trade deadline, ferry migh be forced to trade him.
The Big Question: Is trading Lebron James an option?
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The Big Question: Is trading Lebron James an option?
Originally posted by Nick MangoldWes Welker is a great player. He's really taken advantage of watching film. If we don't keep a Spy on him, he could really open the Gate. -
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Originally posted by mbuserif lebron goes on record with "i am not re-signing with the cleveland cavaliers" then you can. otherwise, no. even exploring the possibility without his making it clear that he 100% would not be back would be ridiculous, as of course news of the trade feelers would leak
I would add that unless LeBron does say he's definitely not coming back then trying to trade him would probably piss him off to the point where he won't even consider staying.
Besides, you can't get equal value for him. Maybe a bunch of draft picks, but that's dicey.Comment
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thats what im saying, what the hell could u trade him for and possibly expect in return? lol
1st round picks for the next 5 years?Comment
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They could never make a fair trade.
Frankly, I think James is being selfish with the way he's holding this team hostage. They could have been a bigger player in free agency, if players knew he had signed.
Just another huge ego who wants all the attention - and signing early would take some of that away.My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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if the organization isnt smart enough or ambitious enough to do what it takes to build a championship team....then he should leave for an organization that is...
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You guys are being such fanboys.
If James were truly devoted to his team and city, he would have committed to signing an extension before the free agent period.
So I ask myself, what keeps James from signing:
A) The team's lack of commitment to winning? Not likely, they're doing everything in their power to get to the next level;
B) The city? It's practically his hometown.
C) The team itself? Cleveland a top five team in the NBA. Can't beat that.
So, in my opinion, it all boils down to ego. There is no other logical explanation for James to keep his 2010 plans a secret.
Had he committed to the franchise before the free agent period, the Cavs could have gone balls to the wall for free agents, likely would have signed Ariza and James' commitment would have sealed this franchise's future.
Instead, the organization, city and its fans are walking on eggshells begging LeBron to stay. It feeds his obvious ego.
I am not for a second knocking him as a player, he's a great one, but there is no reason for him not to commit to the Cavs other than ego.Last edited by dave; 07-07-2009, 02:43 PM.My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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Originally posted by silkamilkmonicoAll Star talent to get his championship, which wouldn't help his legacy to greatness.
LeBron is already seen as perhaps the best NBA player of his generation, I doubt that changes much by the addition of Trevor Ariza or an aging Shaq to help put him over the championship hump.Comment
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I'd trade him if i would be able to get some good players and a superstar like a dwyane wade type playerComment
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Originally posted by sappisgodUse a little logic, dave. Wade is going through the EXACT same thing in Miami, and I don't really see anyone saying he's overflowing with ego or doing it for attention. Most likely both guys are going to want to test the waters, and could still end up back where they started. The only difference is the media keeps driving this LeBron situation into people's heads on a near-weekly basis.
Miami is nowhere near the team Cleveland is.
Wade is nowhere near the player James is - and has that knee issue.
You can't compare James and Wade. One is a superduper star playing in his hometown on a championship level team that would give up both its testicles to keep him. The other is an all-star playing on a .500 team.My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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Originally posted by sappisgodWasn't Kobe "happy" in L.A. for a while, then voiced his displeasure with the front office, asked for help, and *poof* Pau Gasol showed up and they've won the West back to back years. Did his ego get in the way of them not winning conference titles?My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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Originally posted by sappisgodI agree that was a ridiculous trade, but does that mean that Kobe wasn't seemingly rewarded for voicing his opinion on the progress of the team? Or that LeBron would be better off being content with their hole patching every year while other teams have actually built solid teams? Cleveland is seemingly always making moves, but they've only assembled one complementary player for him (Mo) and a superstar at the tail end of his career who actually made a contender in Phoenix worse with his addition. I know he didn't fit their system, but the fact is you have to play around the holes in his game and always watch resting him. He's still an impact player at center, but he's a hindrance too sometimes. And if they don't win the title this year, you're looking at him not pushing the team to the next level AND making 20 mil the next year.
Without Gasol, Lakers not a champion. Period.My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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I am using a ton of logic.
Miami is nowhere near the team Cleveland is.
Wade is nowhere near the player James is - and has that knee issue.
You can't compare James and Wade. One is a superduper star playing in his hometown on a championship level team that would give up both its testicles to keep him. The other is an all-star playing on a .500 team.Comment
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